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Kevin Chang: Speaking of
fantastic, things happening
on the horizon and races.
So I know that Nicole just
finished a great race, um,
recently, and then we've
got to talk about the other
race that happened around
your Western states, man,
because there is a lot to
have in this last weekend.
Bertrand Newson: Wow.
What a weekend?
I mean, if you love
running, it's the.
What the most celebrated ultra
marathon, some would say an
a in the world, certainly in
America, the oldest a hundred
mile road race, the Boston
marathon of ultra running.
Kevin Chang: hello and welcome
to the RaceMob podcast.
This is episode number 55.
I'm Kevin entrepreneur
technology and fitness nerd.
And I'm joined by the
head coach of RaceMob
and master motivator, the
incomparable Bertrand Newson.
On today's episode, we break
down all the latest news
from RaceMob and the running
world, including updates from
our cut, the crap challenge
with Tony, Julian, our
takeaways from the town hall
Q&A featuring Kevin Vandy.
Life updates from
Coach "B" and myself.
Recapping Western states,
including how some of our
podcast guests actually
did during the event.
And finally we recap the
Olympic trials in Eugene.
All of the links in show
notes can be found online
at RaceMob dot com slash
podcast and without further
ado here's our conversation.
Hey, B.
How's it going today?
Bertrand N: Man it's going good.
It's Monday.
And lots going on and here we
are, uh, summertime, right?
Summertime 2021.
And just think where we
were a year ago, Casey,
and where we are right now.
So many changes, so many great
things going on and, uh, lots
of activity in many, many areas.
Kevin Chang: Yeah, that's right.
About a year ago, we launched
the pilot cast and we thought
that it would be fun to do,
you know, uh, uh, almost Monday
meetup style podcast this time
around, or we just kind of give
the audience a little update on
what's happening in our life.
Some of the news that we found
interesting over the past week.
And let's just
dive right into it.
So I know that we're right
in the middle of the Cut the
Crap Challenge we started and
kicked it off about June 18th.
So, uh, how's the
challenge Going for you?
What have you been up to any
good recipes that you want
to share with our audience?
Bertrand Newson: The Cut
the Crap Challenge, man.
Uh, it is a challenge.
It is a challenge.
I mean, father's day, you
know, I had a belated father's
day dinner with my daughter.
That I had to, you know, I had
to, it had to be a cheat day.
We had a wonderful dinner
in Burlingame, California.
What I will say lots more
water, lots more leafy green
salads, refreshing smoothies.
During this time of the year,
very warm and protein drinks.
I'm spending more
time in the gym.
I think I'm down probably
two and a half pounds.
So that is progress and
probably expected to be
down a little bit more.
But Tony said, Hey,
coats, and cheer spending
more time in the gym.
There's a chance you may
not lose as much as you
probably did last time around.
So I'm taking that
in consideration.
Hopefully there's some
body composition change.
Um, but I love the
focus and I'm looking
forward to the challenge.
Uh, we're having a
follow-up, uh, kind of mid
challenge update tomorrow.
And then, you know, right
before the fourth, the
challenge is going to be over
and just trying to maintain
good sustainable habits.
Um, because you know, when we're
making diet changes that are
too drastic, it's hard to, to
maintain them when there's, you
don't have the day-to-day focus.
So that's the one thing I really
like about this challenge is
that you're there foods in
there that you can modify.
Swap in and swap out and
can help you stay healthy,
especially as we have a active
fitness workout routine,
that's surrounding it as well.
Kevin Chang: Yeah, and I,
I love just the simplicity
of what we're trying to do.
We're trying to
cut out the sugars.
We're trying to cut up the
saturated fats, trying to cut
out the, the white breads and
the, the carbs and all alcohol.
So, you know, I think it's
really challenged me to go find
new recipes and other stuff.
Also, we just have such
a fantastic variety out
here of farmer's markets.
And so, you know, the Mrs and I
we've been going to the mountain
view farmer's market every.
We're finding some fantastic
organic vegetables and
fruits and just been
swapping our snacks out.
You know, uh, we, we do
tend to snack a little bit
here and there and as, so
swapping out, you know, the
sugary snacks for a piece of
fruit or, you know, taking
those chips out and doing,
uh, vegetables and hummus.
Um, so just those simple swaps
I think has been fantastic
and just being mindful.
You know, the very supportive
community out here.
We have a number of recipes.
I've been posting a couple of
recipes, you know, uh, chicken
tortilla, soups, and, you know,
it was just some simple things.
Also just really taking
advantage of the air
fryer that I had.
You know, taking some simple
vegetables, spraying a little
bit of avocado oil, a little bit
of salt and pepper, or putting
it in the air fryer and, you
know, crisping up some fantastic
broccolini, cauliflower,
um, just some simple
Bertrand Newson: Man
you're making me hungry.
Kevin Chang: It's
just fantastic,
Bertrand Newson: making
hungry right now.
Kevin Chang: And swapping
out, you know, like you said,
so swapping out spaghetti.
For edamame a pasta,
you know, it was the
first time we tried it.
It's a little bit cheerier
ichewier , but, but still,
you know, fantastic.
Still really delicious,
especially, you know, when
we use some spaghetti sauce
and some of that stuff.
So, um, making it very simple,
you know, swapping out the
pork sausage for more of the
chicken stuff and chicken,
sausage and chicken breasts.
Found a fantastic fish
restaurant around here.
I think it's just helping us be
a little bit more mindful and
I'm also down about two pounds.
Um, so hopefully, you
know, I'll continue to lose
a little bit of weight.
I also had a cheat
day over the weekend.
I got together with a couple
of friends and whatnot.
And so, you know, it, it
happens during the challenge,
but the trick is to get back
on the horse when you can.
And so, uh, Yeah, I'm really
loving the challenge really just
love and being mindful and hope.
You know, I know it is a
two week challenge, but
just continue the best
practices moving forward.
And throughout the summer,
you know, we're finally
getting out of this pandemic.
So I want to get rid of
this pandemic body and get
into a better looking body.
So that's my big goal.
Bertrand: Yeah, I hear you, man.
I hear, and what's worked for
me in the past is, you know,
um, taking a time on a Sunday
or Monday and just doing some
meal prep with my proteins.
If I'm able to get proteins
prepped, you know, 10 points.
Eight to 10 portions that
aren't always the same mill.
Sometimes it can be a salad
topper sometimes can be
compliment with know brown rice
and veggies and a salad, but
giving yourself a little bit
of variety because proteins,
you have that flexibility.
But for me, preparing
them in advance, it's
a game changer for me.
Doing it kind of day to day
on the fly making decision.
Um, later in the day, you've
Workday kind of gets away
from you and you're just
looking for some comfort,
food or comfort, uh, healthy.
It's a little bit tougher to
do, unless you don't already
have something set aside in
the refrigerator, you just
pop in the microwave or put
in the oven and, you know, add
some greens to it and enjoy.
So
Kevin Chang: And I know
that you're, you're using
the smoker site, you know,
some, videos that you posted
on social media, whatnot.
So smoked what salmon
and chicken is that what
you were working with?
Bertrand Newson: Yep.
And I love it.
It's fun.
And I enjoy it.
I enjoy the food prep and I
enjoy eating, especially if
you know what, you know, that's
prepared when you go to a
restaurant you're coming out
of pocket and spend the money.
You know, if there are other
things that have been added to
it, you know, butter and more
sodium than you normally would.
Um, But if you're preparing it
yourself, it's made with love.
And you know, it just,
you can appreciate a
little bit more as well.
So when I, like, when I do some
food prep, I'd like to make a
little extra and I'll bring some
to some of my friends as well
to help them on their health
and wellness journey or just,
they just want to grow out.
So I enjoy it.
Kevin Chang: Yeah.
Yeah.
So fantastic challenge uh,
is still around for another
about a week, I guess,
five days, six days by the
time this podcast comes
out for another three days.
But we'll probably continue,
you know, eating healthy.
Throughout the summer you
know, a lot of, a lot of
goals to, to lose some of this
weight and to, to feel better.
And, you know, for me, I think
it's a lot more about just
the feeling better aspect and
cutting sugar, processed foods.
All of that just helps you
feel so much better reduces
inflammation you know, and
just helps helps your body
recover, helps you be have that
energy to be able to do these
activities that we love to do.
So a fantastic challenge.
And I'm seeing a lot of
success, a lot of results
in Tony Julian's page.
So continue the challenge guys.
And if you need recipes feel
free to reach out to us,
I have some fun recipes.
And I know Tony has got
some fantastic recipes
on her site, as well as
in that Facebook group.
Awesome.
Also wanting to get to,
uh, We had a town hall Q&A
within the group last week
as well with Kevin Vandy.
So if you guys haven't caught
that Q&A I'll find a way,
I think we're going to find
a way to post that Q&A video
online for you to check out.
I mean, Kevin Vandy, fantastic
podcast guests that we had
on earlier this year Coach
want to walk us through some
of the stuff that he was
able to share with audio.
Bertrand Ne: Yeah, it was great.
And we really appreciate Kevin,
uh, Vandy and folks over at
competitive edge PT for looking
for fantastic proactive.
You know, one thing we are
usually reaching out to, uh,
physical therapists after
something has happened.
There's ways that we can
go about our business
from a health and wellness
standpoint, where we're
doing things to prevent being
injured in the first place.
And being able to check out the
video that Kevin I will share,
um, is a great place to start.
So as Kevin.
A recap.
We had an opportunity to
talk about running form.
What are all runners want
to learn about is how
to run more effectively,
more efficiently, how to
understand body mechanics.
What are some good exercises to
do before we start running in
the warmup phase, what are some
exercises do from a strength
and conditioning standpoint.
Um, when is the best
time to stretch?
We do not want to stretch,
um, like static stretching.
Pre-run we want to do that
once the body is warmed up.
So if we're doing some
calisthenics, jumping jacks, um,
lunges, um, things along those
lines, air squats, and then want
to get into some of that work.
But certainly once the body
is warmed, that's when we
want to do some stretching.
Um, Kevin bandy
talked about football.
And talked about a trunk lean
and that, Hey, if you have a,
uh, if you're a heel striker
or if you're you land on your
forefoot, we just want to kind
of find that happy medium, where
if you're a heel striker, we
don't want to be so much, so
much of an extreme heel striker.
If we are, we land on the
forefoot, we just want
to bring that back a bit.
And that it's we want to find.
What is best and you don't
want to drastically alter your
running mechanics because that
throws everything else off.
So getting into a local
running store, seeing a
physical therapist, seeing
a running coach and having
your running form evaluated,
so you, as the runner become
more educated and just what,
what you do in comparison to
some of the things that Dr.
Vandy went through on the video
that we'll be sharing again.
So, all and all, the Q&A
was fantastic, really good
questions asked by our audience.
And that's what really are
the good takeaways for me is
when the audience is getting
their, you own unique questions
answered by a professional
and being able to take those
learning nuggets back and apply
it to their own routine so they
can be running more efficient.
And the importance of cadence.
If we can run at the optimum
cadence, a range of like.
Over a hundred and seventy,
a hundred and seventy five
steps to 180 per minute, that
in its own right, can help
improve your running economy,
get minimized hill striking.
It reduces your, your, your, the
length of your striking up, um,
in front of your center mass.
There are a lot of positive
things that if you have the
ability to track that, if
you're getting that from
your GPS track of, through
your phone, Or through a
smartwatch or a pod, that's
very valuable information,
simple information that we can
make subtle tweaks just to pick
up that cadence a little bit.
It's going to help
us in the long run.
Kevin Chang: Yeah, love it.
What I really love is him
breaking down the running form.
He has so many fantastic
machines at his office.
I think both you and I actually
went into his practice, had
our running form analyzed.
I mean, they have these machines
where they can measure the
force and the pressure on.
An actual treadmill.
So, you know, each foot where
your foot is striking, how much
pressure is placed on each foot.
Um, as well as the, almost
break down your body into
like a skeletal structure.
And they're really able to
measure your left hip, your
right hip, um, you know,
where things are looking, they
can kind of look at it at a
3d model, see where you're
leaning, where you're not
leaning and, and other things.
And so I loved him actually
breaking that down.
Because, unless you see a
visually, it's hard for you
to really understand, you
know, what they're looking
at, how they're trying to
analyze your running form.
So for me, what I loved is him
breaking down the overstriding.
Um, you know, what it looks
like to overstride where you
might actually have problems
with shins and, and, you know,
with, uh, the force of the
pressure on your heels and
actually how you may be applying
brakes to your running form.
So you're not running
the most efficiently
if you're overstriding.
So I loved him actually
breaking that down.
Showing, you know
what to look for.
And especially, you know,
how you might want to look
for it kind of later in runs.
So, uh, your running form when
you're on a treadmill and on
those things, maybe you're
really conscious about it, but
you know, if you're in and half
marathon where we had Jason
PV house on our podcast just
a week ago, you're running
for may break down over time.
So you may want to have somebody
videotape or take a look at
your running form over time
and see, you know, are there
things that are breaking down.
Um, or are there things to,
you know, strengthen specific
muscles to strengthen,
to make sure that your
running form is as efficient
as possible over time.
So love that love that he
was able to break all that
stuff down, love the questions
that people had and all sorts
of questions, um, around,
you know, uh, knee pain or
around, you know, uphill,
running, downhill, running.
You know, it's just some
fantastic questions from the
audience, as you mentioned.
So we'll have the video
I'm available up online
and we continue to do
these Q&A sessions, these
town halls with experts.
So come get involved.
I think we're having
them, uh, many Thursdays
throughout the month.
Uh, we're putting
together a calendar.
Uh, specifically for you to
be able to add it to your
Google calendar, as well as
a PDF calendar for you to
share out to other friends.
Uh, so that we get the
word out when we have these
experts on these town halls.
So fantastic job
and a lot of fun.
Bertrand Newson: Yep.
Well said, man.
Kevin Chang: Awesome.
Cool.
Well, I wanted to get into
a couple of life updates.
You know, I think for
people who may be listening
to the podcast may not be
listening to the podcast.
I'm not, I'm not sure,
but, um, a couple of
big life updates for me.
Um, over the past
couple of weeks.
One, uh, Christina and
I are expecting a baby
girl this November.
So we're extremely
excited about that.
I have some nervous
anticipation, obviously
trying to learn as much as
possible for our first baby.
So, you know, uh, figuring
all of this stuff out
behind the scenes.
But really just so blessed
to have a baby on the way I'm
extremely, extremely excited.
So, um, have that to look
forward to this year.
Um,
Bertrand Newson: Fantastic!
Kevin Chang: And the
other news from my side.
So, um, I think those who
have been listening to the
podcast may know that I've
been on a job search for
the last couple of months.
So I have accepted a
position at Bill.com.
And I'll be starting
that position up in
the middle of July.
That shouldn't make any changes
to the RaceMob podcasts and
the fantastic content that
we're producing for this
channel and for the email.
In fact, we're onboarding a
virtual assistant for us to help
us continue making content and
hopefully make even more and
better content along the way.
So, uh, one is to let people
know that, , I am starting
a new job, but I think that
it's just good things for us.
, I think it'll, it'll
help us actually.
Uh, be able to manage
a lot of these things
kind of on our side.
So a couple of those life
updates from my side and
coach, I know you have some
fantastic updates as well.
, Bertrand Newson: yes.
Uh, Again, man.
So happy for both of you and
Christina and your new employer
is very, very fortunate.
They could not have
a better person.
So yes, lots going on here.
Let's see with Coach
"B" and RaceMob.
80/20 Foundation, the
80/20 Endurance Foundation.
Um, our good friend, Matt
Fitzgerald, he started a
501C3 and he wants to get
uh, people of color, an
opportunity to become, uh,
professionals and sustain a
long and rewarding career as
an endurance professional,
endurance coach, as a track
and field coach cross country,
coach rowing, coach, whatever
it may be from a health and
wellness athletic standpoint.
And we're not talking
about a nominal, you
know, $250, $500 grant.
We're talking about
someone who's going to
be mentored for a year.
A year long and they're the
related fees covered in an
effort to ensure that they
have the most well-rounded
focus, support and learn
from Matt, uh, and people on
our advisory committee that
I'm happy to say that both
Kevin and I are a part of.
And, uh, yeah, I have a
nice role in the non-pro.
And I'm just very fortunate.
You know, we are able to
give back to the community.
That's been so good to us,
but also as Kevin and I are
both, , minorities, , being
able to help others that
look like us as well.
So we're very fortunate
to be working with Matt
and thank you for the
opportunity to, to share that.
Um, and other news, um, yeah,
I don't know what else, Casey,
what else do I wanna share?
How's your foot doing?
How's your foot doing?
Bertrand Newson: Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
And maybe the entire audience
doesn't know, but you will
that I'm the happiest,
I'm the happiest broken
footed coach in America.
Yes.
I'm about, ah, let's see, almost
six weeks into my recovery.
Um, I'll have a follow-up x-ray
the middle part of July and
hope to be given the green light
to get back to some jogging
in late July and running at
some point in early to mid
August, if all goes well and
I'm in a boot in the house.
Um, so it's braced the
bottom half of my foot.
So there's no bending,
which is good.
And, uh, just pivoting
my, my workout routine
more time in the gym.
And I've been on a roll.
And we'll start
exercise bike this week.
So, um, I think it's a
blessing in disguise.
W how has that, how would
someone who loves running
as much as I do feel that
it's a blessing right now
to have a broken foot?
Here's why it puts me in the
shoes of athletes that we work
with because injuries do happen.
And to be able to understand
the mindset, knowing how to
still stay active without
delaying your recovery.
The importance of dieting,
the importance of getting
sound advice from medical
professionals, not always
trying to self-diagnose
and it gives you a greater
appreciation when something
is taken away from you.
Much like we had.
And race is taken
away from us in 2020.
We see how that is
all coming back.
And it's so popular.
There's a huge buzz out there.
But for me as a running
coach, I cannot ever
take running for granted.
And again, it puts me in
the shoes of those athletes
who are navigating injury
or who will at some point.
And I think all in all,
there were some, some silver
linings that will happen for
all, all parties involved
myself first and foremost.
Kevin Chang: And I know that
you've taken some of this.
To get back into the gym,
work on your strength
a little bit more.
So you're, you're not taking
it lying down, so to to speak.
Bertrand Newson: I I, I
missed, being in the gym and
I've been spending a lot of
time in the gym and that's
impacted my, my protein.
I think I'm eating cleaner
because I'm, you know, more
protein drinks, more smoothies,
more salads in the cup.
The corrupt challenge is
complimenting that as well.
Um, then I think, um, you know,
when I emerge on the other side,
I'll be a stronger runner, uh,
overall, and it probably will
take me a little bit, bit of
time to get my endurance back.
But I think my core than my
trunk will be strong and that
will serve me best in the
bigger picture, as I'm hoping
to get in a marathon or two
or a couple half marathons
before the year is over.
Um, but being mindful of maybe
avoiding some technical trails
that I love to do, you know,
being a six one, you know,
taller, bigger runner that
there's just more pressures
being put on, you know, my lower
limbs and maybe avoid a little
bit of that running hiking.
I love I can do that.
But as far as marathons
or half marathons.
I don't take it for granted.
So when I do have the
opportunity, I look forward
to getting out there and
pacing, uh, fellow runners,
as there are lots happening
from a race standpoint, as
we'll talk more about in
the coming weeks and months.
Kevin Chang: Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
And we are seeing a lot
more live races coming back.
I know, um, you know,
brazen racing has sent
out a number of different
emails, so a lot of their
live races are coming back.
I know that you're
intimately involved with
Rock and Roll San Jose.
And we had Jason PV house
come back or talk to us
last week about, , him being
entered into that, October
3rd, , half marathon.
So I love the Rock and Roll.
I mean, I've had a lot of fun
with those half marathons.
Um, definitely.
Uh, if you're planning
on doing a half marathon
though, do some training,
I've definitely ran there
before without much training.
And, , I've paid the price.
I think I, yeah, I had a stress
fracture , caused by, you
know, I completed the race.
I ran the race, but unless
you have trained your body and
trained up to that distance,
you may find yourself in
an injury and so, um, Yeah.
definitely train up for it.
, get ready for it,
get prepared for it.
, but October 3rd, that
live race is coming back.
And there's a number of
different races is, , that I've
seen, , the community really
excited about coming back.
Bertrand Newson: Our team
putting in work right now.
Kevin, great call-out, um,
regarding San Jose rock-n-roll.
You have time right now, even
if you're you're on the couch
and you look into get to the
finish line because they have
a 5k on October 2nd and the
half marathon on the third.
You know, RaceMob too
legit we'll be providing
the Pacers for that event.
So we're very excited
for that opportunity.
But you can find
a training plan.
We can help you with that.
There's a great
supportive community.
, our town hall, , Q and
A's, we'll be fostering
some of that as well.
They'll probably be some
local community meetups
and complimentary runs.
You can get out there.
And if you're here, a local,.
Um, and some of that will
be shared virtually as well,
but yes, there are live races
happen here in the bay area.
I think we have a brazen
event on the 31st of July
in San Leandro, California.
Yeah, that's coming up.
So I'm in a couple of
other trail things that
are happening as well, but.
And a great way to hold yourself
is to sign up for race, spend a
little bit of money, invest in
yourself and you hold yourself
accountable because as Kevin
mentioned, you know, if you
don't, if you don't prepare for
that race, at some point, we're
going to pay the price for it.
So you have time now to get into
a training plan that is either
self navigated or supported
by, , us here at RaceMob.
, but yeah, no better time
than to present, to sign
up, look at the calendar and
we will help you with it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And if you're looking
for training plans and
training advice, feel
free to reach out to us.
Uh, we just had a meeting
this morning with the
80 20, uh, organization.
Bring a number of their training
plans on the RaceMob site.
, it's really, it's
backed by science.
One of the best ways to train in
a way that is conducive to your
body, that will help you reach
peak performance, reduce the,
, injuries that you may encounter.
So it just fantastic,
fantastic training plans.
, and then you'll have
the support of a coach.
, that that knows what he's
doing, you know, over 300
graces and Coach "B", um,
I'll be here to answer any
questions and we just have a
wealth of, friends of guests, of
experts that you can tap into.
You know, we've, talked to
again, the Kevin Vandis of the
world, we talked to strength
coaches, , all over we've had,
Jason Fitzgerald on the podcast.
We've talked to Dean
Karnazes and even got him
involved in some of our
coaching programs and, and
with some of our clients.
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Speaking of fantastic,
things happening on
the horizon and races.
So I know that Nicole just
finished a great race, um,
recently, and then we've
got to talk about the other
race that happened around
your Western states, man,
because there is a lot to
have in this last weekend.
Bertrand Newson: Wow.
What a weekend?
I mean, if you love
running, it's the.
What the most celebrated ultra
marathon, some would say an
a in the world, certainly in
America, the oldest a hundred
mile road race, the Boston
marathon of ultra running.
And we had several, let's
see several team members
and , a former podcast
guest and Verity Breen, who
participated tough conditions.
I mean, one, let only if
you're running a hundred
miles is Herculean enough,
but to do it, um, in a
hundred degree temperatures.
And let's give it
up for the women.
I mean, so anyone who had the
three top 10 women overall
finishers and, um, I mean
it, Kevin, you reminded me
of this, the second fastest
woman finisher of all times.
So a shout out to, uh,
Christian Valencia.
The participated, uh,
Endorphin Dude, Tony, who,
you know, hats off strong,
strong effort, all things
considered, , and a couple
other individuals as well.
But what were your
thoughts on that race?
KC.
How did you
Kevin Chang: Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, incredibly
technical race, obviously.
Um, you know, so tough
to get into as well as
Dean Karnazes told us.
It's tougher to get into
Western States than it is to
get into Harvard these days.
Right.
Um, just so few entries
they've kept the entries off.
Um, and so, you know, it is
a lottery system it's really,
really difficult to get into
just, uh, incredibly tough and
difficult weather conditions.
Um, we'll talk a little bit
more about running And heat
and what that means and what
you have to do to compensate
for running and heat.
But you know, when the
temperature gets up over
a hundred degrees, um,
you're running probably.
30 seconds, 40 seconds, you
know, even a minute slower,
um, to just to compensate
for that incredible, you
know, temperature, variance,
so tough conditions.
I know that endorphin dude had
been looking forward to this
for years and years and years.
Um, He said, you know, extremely
technical, um, difficult
terrain, especially early
going, uh, ended up pulling
a muscle in his hamstring.
Um, you know, and it still
toughed it out, you know,
toughed it out and walked and
walked in and tried to do, go
as far as you possibly could.
And it's tough to just spend
years wanting for this event,
training for this events
going after this event and not
being able to finish, but you
know, at the end of the day,
as with any of these ultra
marathons, it is a challenge.
It is an absolute challenge just
to get to the starting line, let
alone to get to the finish line.
So just hats off to all these
incredible folks, um, for,
for completing the, you know,
as far as they could in these
events, um, You were telling
me, Christine, you know, she
went through so much just to get
to that starting line through
injury and everything else just
to get to that starting line.
And, you know, she was able
to tough it out, uh, so
incredibly much so, um, you
know, And then Verity as well.
Bertrand Newson: Mean, it was,
we say is, you know, it's,
it's tough as they get in,
in Verity who I think clips
the 80, 83 mile mark and was
within less than a month.
Um, and then just missed the
cutoff and you talk about a
heartbreak, but she, you know,
she, she took it in stride.
Um, she had some of the
most poignant and, uh,
motivating, uh, post post race.
Just love her attitude.
Um, we know she'll be back to
fight another day, but, uh,
hats off to all 2021 Western
state, um, participants.
And our friend Dean.
Now, when we talk with
Dean was 2021 that he
was going to participate?
Kevin Chang: No, no.
So he participated in 2019.
Uh, that was where his
book was about here.
You know, it was
able to finish it.
And here's a guy who had
finished for a decade more,
um, you know, that race and
been able to complete it.
And yet the book just talked in
detail about how difficult the
Western states race actually is.
You know, I mean,
I think the mental.
Toughness that you have to
have to actually complete it.
And I don't think the
temperatures were quite as high
when he was completing in 2019.
But, um, man, I mean,
it just hats off to all
of these participants.
And as you mentioned, you
know, Beth Pascal, second
fastest women's time of
all time in Western states
this year, given the
temperatures, given the heat.
So, you know, she came
all the way from the UK.
We had, finishers all
the way from New Zealand
from Netherlands.
You know, so some fantastic,
international, field of women,
and men, you know, taking
place, um, over the weekend,
so fantastic job there.
And then you got to give a
shout out to Jim Walmsley.
I mean,
Bertrand Newson: 14
hours and change.
Kevin Chang: The men's field.
He, Yeah, he crushed
the men's field.
I mean, he was on pace,
I think through the first
half of Western states to
actually set a new record.
Um, obviously, you know,
the heat got to him, um, you
know, it caught up to him
at the end, still eclipse,
the next fastest man.
I want to say hours, right?
I mean, it was like,
it was not even close.
He's just like he just
kept putting on, um, yeah,
he just kept going and
putting distance between
him and the second place.
So I'm a fantastic job.
Bertrand Newson: Shout
out to our friend and
also fill a podcast.
Yes.
Uh, Greg landslide, who was,
I think for the last four or
five, six years has helped,
uh, shepherd one of the
largest aid stations out there.
Um, he gets out there with
another crew and lots of
energy, but you know, one of
his probably he enjoys doing
that more than producing any
other races getting out there.
Cause he's a Western
states finisher himself
from years, years ago.
So, um, and at some point it'd
be nice to get out there and
I look forward to supporting
or watching those, uh,
rooting on the participants
in future Western states.
So hoping to be
out there in 2020.
Kevin Chang: Absolutely.
Yeah.
And we've had other podcast
guests who are out there.
I think a Joyce Lee was
crucial for Endorphin Dude.
So I know that
she was out there.
I saw Mike uh, he was
out there doing videos
and, and on Instagram and
on YouTube and whatnot.
Um, so just fantastic support
the running community,
really all going out there
to support this event.
Making sure that it came
off without a hitch, you
know, despite the weather and
despite all of that, you know,
coming off without a hitch
and, uh, just fantastic to
see the running community out
there, supporting each other,
especially this time around.
So fantastic job
Speaking of running and heat.
I mean, you can't, you
can't talk about running
with heat without talking
about what's happened in
Eugene, Oregon this week.
And, oh my gosh.
I mean, you know, we thought
it was hot out here in the
bay area, but man, they're
seeing some really, really
hot temperatures up there
for the US Olympic trials.
Some fantastic events happening,
, all throughout the weekend,
all throughout the week.
, anything catch your eye,
anything that you're excited
for going into Tokyo this year?
Bertrand Newso: A simple answer.
All of it.
All!
And you know, and a couple of
our listeners are aware this,
that I was, uh, but this event
would have happened in 2020,
which was originally supposed
to, um, I was a volunteer.
So I would have been in
Eugene last year, uh, this
year that didn't happen,
but I'm man, I love this.
I love everything
about the trials.
I love everything about
the Olympics and Tokyo is
going to be on the horizon.
And even going back two
Um, the NCAA track and
field championships were
held in Oregon as well.
So they had some fantastic
performances where people,
um, who either one they're
respected event actually are
participating in the trials
this past week, week and a half.
Um, and it earned their
ticket to, uh, Tokyo.
And just think of
all the hard work.
Uh, so many wonderful stories
that boil down to minutes
and seconds and distance.
And you know, on the last lap
or the last row on the last
jump, um, you can just relate
to, to those athletes there
that have put so much on hold
and sacrificed so much time
and energy for their one shot,
and to see it come to fruition.
Or for those who almost made
it and you just know that
they're going to come back
with even more determination.
It's so inspiring.
So, so inspiring.
So any standout performances?
I love it all.
Kevin Chang: Yeah.
I mean, I know that they're
going to be some real stars,
you know, uh, when we get
to Tokyo there just going to
be some real standouts, but
who's the woman who ran the
a hundred ma a hundred meter.
Uh,
Bertrand Newson: Oh yes.
Cara Richardson.
Kevin Chang: Yeah.
Cool man.
She just blew, blew
everyone out of the water.
I mean, she is
Bertrand Newson: She's
pulling up before the start,
you know, celebrating a
little early, cause she's,
she's just got it like that.
She's incredibly confident,
young and old, bright
hopeful for the U S women
to reclaim some sprint glory
because the Jamaicans have
dominated in the same thing
in the men's field as well.
So us should be very
well-represented in the 100,
200, the women's 200 men.
We were talking
Kevin Chang: Man.
That's
Bertrand Newson: about that.
Yeah.
Uh, the young lady who,
uh, the Harvard graduate
Kevin Chang: The Harvard grad.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Who came in the second
fastest time ever.
Yeah.
I mean, just, she's
just fantastic.
And she even like pulled up a
little bit, you know, her
arms were up in the air,
like right at the end there.
And man, I mean, so
fast Allyson, Felix
was running that same.
Um, came in fifth.
So, uh, you know, and
it was just a fantastic
story for Alison Alison is
still going to the Tokyo
Olympics in the 400 meter.
Uh, which is Yeah, fantastic.
But the 200 meter man, that
was, that was fantastic.
So fantastic to watch.
Right.
Oh man.
And there are some,
some great stories on
the men's side as well.
I'm like, I'm struggling
in a couple of them, the
names of some of these
folks, but you know,
Bertrand Newson: Yeah, the
let's see the, the, the, um,
100 minutes, 100, uh, the
overall winner let's see his
name escapes me, but he's a new
balance, uh, sponsored athlete.
He'd been to the games before
he was, uh, let's see you, the
games in Rio and was injured.
Um, and I think torn Achilles
and was suffered a Tremaine,
Brunel is his last name.
Tremaine, Brunel, I believe,
and has run the world's fastest
time, recovered from injury and
clearly looks like the favorite.
I mean, he blew away the fastest
other men in the United States.
So again, giving the U S
the opportunity to reclaim
their sprint glory at that
particular distance, that just
to make sense of just dominate
it, you know, post Usain,
Bolt's tenure and beyond.
So, and then looking forward
to the sprints, you know,
the, the, the, um, Um,
which is going to be fun.
The 400 meter, the four by one,
four by four men's and women.
And I believe they're
introducing the, men's slash
women where the men are wearing
two legs and women are running
two legs of the four by one
and four by four for the first
time it's been introduced.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's been introduced in a
world championships for the
first time in the Olympics.
That is super cool than
certainly, you know, uh,
gymnastics and swimming
and all the other events.
It's not, you know, we're
not only talking about
just track and filaments.
There are so many athletes
that have worked so hard
to get back, um, or to earn
their way for the first time.
And it's a great opportunity
to look at world athletics, um,
emerging out of the pandemic.
And I, I just cannot be any more
excited to, to watch the games.
Kevin Chang: Yeah.
Yeah.
It's going to be thrilling.
I mean, and there was like,
17 year old, who, who was
coming out and the 200
meter I think, and, oh man.
And, uh, no Lyles and Yeah.
there's just so many fantastic
stories, you know, the pole
vaulting, uh, just yeah.
Bertrand News: We can on and on.
Kevin Chang: What I,
what I, you know, yeah.
I think the 10 K was just a
fantastic race, I think, uh,
especially on the women's side.
Uh, she, yeah, Steeple Chase.
Oh man.
And so, Yeah, Fantastic
stories all around.
I mean, you cannot wait
to watch the Olympics.
Um, it'll be a
tremendous amount of fun.
And hopefully it won't be
in a hundred degree heat and
a hundred degree weather,
Bertrand Newson: they moved
the, the marathon further
north, um, in Japan because
the temperatures are cool.
Um, so trying to give
them the marathoners a
little bit of a break.
So, um, that's nice to be able
to do that, but it's going to
be, it's going to be great, man.
It's going to be great.
And we'll hopefully, you
know, some type of the viewing
party or report out on the
women's marathon, the men's
marathon, and some other
marquee track and field events.
And if you have anything
you'd like us to cover in a
specific way or something,
we can all watch together.
Um, we can talk about that.
So feel free to enter
your, your comments.
Kevin Chang: Yeah.
Fantastic.
Fantastic.
Yeah.
Plenty of stuff on the horizon,
we're working on a number of
different things behind the
scenes, . So, really excited
to, , give you guys kind of
some of these updates of what's
happening with us and what's
happening with the RaceMob.
And thank you guys
all for listening.
And this , rambling, fun
reminiscent of our Monday
meetups of style podcast,
where we give you some
updates on what's happening
in the running world and
what we're excited about.
So, um, thank you all again.
Appreciate it.
Bertrand Newson: We
are all happy for you.
Yes.
So you put in a lot of hard
work and it's nice to say, uh,
thanks and congratulations.
And couldn't be happy for
you and Christina with
your pending birth of
your beautiful baby girl.
So.
Kevin Chang: Thank you.
Thank you, Coach.
Thank you, Coach.
All right, we'll catch
all you guys next week.
Appreciate it.
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