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Endor: Like power walking my way
through sweating and just
being in so much pain.
I learned that I
can do this and I
know I can finish.
that's what I learned from it.
You know, I mean the
finished line may be
far like way out there
in a far distance.
But I knew that
one step at a time
I can get there.
And this applies to every
aspect of life, not just
a marathon, it's like
your job, a project you
have to do relationships,
whatever, you know, one
step at a time, one foot
in front of the other.
So that's what I learned.
Kevin Chang: Hello, and
welcome to the RaceMob
podcast, where we're
all about running long,
having fun and making
the human connection.
This is episode number 39.
I'm Kevin entrepreneur
technology and fitness nerd.
And I'm joined by the
head coach of RaceMob
and master motivator,
the incomparable
Bertrand Newson.
It's a bird.
It's a plane.
It's wait.
No, it couldn't be yes.
It's the one and
only endorphin dude.
When this caped Crusader
traipsed into my life in
2011, I didn't realize
the powerful impact his
story would have sure
with this goofy grin
infectious optimism and
hysterical personality,
you might not realize
just how mentally
tough and superhuman
Tony actually is.
In 2009 and overweight
and unhealthy Tony collapsed
in his apartment.
And looking into his
dog's eyes, he decided
to make a change.
What started with a 10
minute walk around the
block, turns into a quest
for a half marathon and
then a full marathon.
And then an Epic
adventure to complete 52
marathons in 52 weeks.
I think that we
often give too much
credit to the front
of the pack athletes.
Those who are naturally
gifted with talent and
can push the envelope.
And not enough credits
to the courageous back
of the pack runner
who sacrifices so
much just to get to
the starting line.
Tony admits he's not
a gifted athlete.
In fact, during his
quest, he had to
purposefully search
for marathons with
extended cutoffs.
I'm talking seven hours or eight
hours to complete
a single marathon.
Imagine working a
full-time job, driving
a long distance to
participate in a marathon
that, you know, you'll be
one of the last finishers
at, but then donning
this Cape and bringing.
An infectious
smile, that's ear to
ear, to the event.
In part, one of the story
you're going to hear
about the origin story
of endorphin dude and his
52 marathons in 52 weeks.
In part two you're going
to hear about his epic
quest for belt buckles We hope
that you enjoy this belly
busting conversation
with the one and
only endorphin dude.
We are talking to the
one and only Tony Nguyen
the Endorphin Dude.
Welcome to the podcast, Tony.
Endorphin Dude (Tony: Thank you.
I'm so happy to be
here after all that my
technical difficulties
kind of log on.
I'm glad I finally made it
Kevin Chang: This is
definitely months and
months in the making.
We chatted about you in
our very first podcast
episode of all the
people that we wanted
to talk to when we
started this podcast,
, you were at the top
of my list because
of the inspiration.
That you are . And
we want to make sure
that the RaceMob
audience gets to hear
this fantastic story.
Endorphin Dud: Yeah, definitely.
, first of all, thanks for
having me on the show.
I , Really appreciate that.
And I like to tell my
story because if I can
just inspire one person
to make healthy changes
to his or her life
based on my personal
experience, then I
feel like I've made the
world a better place.
you know, one person at a time.
My story dates back to
just like childhood.
I was always the fat kid who got
picked last in PE.
From that I grew into
the adult who became
type two diabetic at
a fairly young age.
I was diagnosed in
my early thirties.
And that was one of
those things where my
doctor said to me that
if I didn't change
my lifestyle, I would
probably not see 40.
Uh, this was minding
my early thirties.
So you probably
won't make it to 40.
If you don't make
some life changes.
And the problem was
that I was in complete
denial about it.
I just kind of was
like, Hmm, okay.
Whatever.
I can just take this
magic pill that the
doctor prescribed to
me and it would make
everything go away.
Well, you know, in a
way it kind of did,
because in my mind I was
like, yeah, it went away
because once I took the
pills, My blood glucose
levels got regulated,
but that's because I
was on a drug, you know,
so with every drug,
there are side effects.
And so I was getting
so dependent on these
drugs because I just
didn't want to exercise.
I just didn't care to us.
Why do I need to
lose, use weight and
exercise when I can
just take this pill and
everything will be fine?
Well, sure enough, within about.
A year and a half of when
I was first diagnosed,
I went from one pill to
the maximum dosage of
insulin because my blood
glucose levels were just
like off the charts.
It was kind of scary.
And so I was, I
weighed in at about
227 pounds for my
five foot five frame.
I was a big guy and.
On April fool's day, 2009.
No joke.
I came home from work
and collapsed on my
living room floor and
didn't really know
what was going on.
I thought I was
having a heart attack.
I mean, I was feeling
pain and I was
sweating profusely.
And.
I was like, Oh boy, I'm
having a heart attack.
This is not good.
Fortunately, it
wasn't a heart attack.
It was just extreme
exhaustion, , and just
bad nutrition and just a
reckless lifestyle that
I was leading that led
me to this, this point.
So when the dust settled
and when I got back
to normal, I kind of
said to myself, okay,
this is a wake up call.
So I took my dog for a
walk around the block and
I was like, okay, well,
this was therapeutic.
It was a difficult walk.
I lived in San
Francisco at the time.
So lots of Hills in
San Francisco and
I walked around the
block and it felt good.
And I was like, okay,
I got to make these
changes tomorrow.
I'm going to walk
around the block twice.
And which I did.
And I said the next
day, I didn't do it three times.
So the middle steps,
you know, I said to
myself, I'm going to
make these little steps
and hopefully that
will lead me to change.
So sure enough, a
few weeks passed.
And my walk around
the block turned into
like a walk around
the neighborhood,
which turned into
like a walk around the
neighborhood and into
the next neighborhood.
And before I knew
it within like a few
weeks, I was walking.
Three four miles every
night after work, which
back then three, four
miles was a huge deal.
Oh my God.
It hurt.
I remember the first time
I walked, I had blisters
after walking a mile.
So within a few weeks,
It was a part of
my life after work.
, I would take my dog
for a walk, which was
great because when I had
collapsed on my living
room floor, my dog, my
dog's name is Chewbacca.
She's a little Chihuwinnie.
A half Chihuahua,
half Wiener dog.
She's five pounds.
And she's in an inappropriate
relationship with a cat.
It's really unnerving this...
They've been together
for about nine years.
They've known each
other for nine years
and lived together
for about seven years.
And Oh my God, the
neighbors talk about me.
I can see them snickering.
I feel it, you know,
this dog and this cat.
Anyway, when I clapped
into the floor, my dog
just kept barking at me.
She just, she had this
look in her eyes, she
had this, uh don't
don't you make me an
orphan again, I'm not
going back to the pound.
She was a rescue dog.
She had that look,
you know, I mean,
animals know dogs,
cats, they know.
And so I really kind
of felt the sense of
like, , I mean, I don't
have kids, you know,
but I have my, my dog
and that's my kid.
And I was like,
I, I have to live.
I can't die.
I don't want my dog to
go back to the pound.
So it became like
this very therapeutic
thing for me to walk
my dog every day.
And it just put like
a sense of balance
back in my life.
I became calm again and
I started to lose some
weight in the process and
I was sleeping better,
I was eating better.
And within like a few
months, the first.
Few months I had dropped
quite a bit of weight.
I dropped like 30 pounds or so.
And I was like, Hmm.
Okay.
Walking thing is working for me.
It's really working.
So this was April
fool's day and then fast
forward a few months.
to July.
July is the month
where the San Francisco
marathon takes place.
So a buddy of mine
said to me, Hey Tony,
I'm running the San
Francisco marathon.
Why don't you come
out and cheer me
on, you know, come
to the finish line.
And I honestly didn't
know what a marathon was.
I mean, I knew what it
was, but I didn't know
what the distance was.
I was like, what's
that like 10 miles or
something, you know?
I didn't know.
I thought a 5k was
like the contribution
you make to your 401k.
I didn't make the, connection.
I thought it was just
like a form you filled
out for your taxes.
I didn't know any
of these things.
So I was like, yeah.
Yeah.
So I went out to the
finish line at the San
Francisco marathon.
And I stood there and
my friend was projected
to finish in about four
hours or whatever it was.
So I got there.
I made sure I made enough time
As I'm standing at the
finish line, all these
runners are like running
through the finish line.
Shoot, you know, and they're so
happy and everyone
around is so happy.
I was cheering them
on and the runners
are running through
and you can see them
smiling, you can see
the pain, the happiness.
Every emotion you
can possibly imagine
at the finish line.
You guys know this you're
runners, you know this.
But to your listeners
who are just starting
out running or are not
familiar with the finish
line area, go out there
to a race and be at the
finish line and you will
feel what I call second
hand runner's high.
Because that's what
I had, secondhand runner's high.
I was like, wow,
this is just crazy.
I was like, and I just
turned to the random
stranger next to me.
And I said, I'm doing
this, I'm running a
marathon next year.
I'm doing it.
It was like a total
random stranger.
And once I said that out loud, I
knew I had to do it.
I think we lost Coach "B"?
That's the code?
The B and Coach P
stand for Barbara
as in Tiki, barber.
Get it.
Cause he looks like anyway,
Kevin Chang: I'm going to
start calling you that.
Yeah.
As in, he doesn't
need a barber anymore,
Endor: At least from what I see.
I see on my screen right here.
So anyway,
Bertrand Newson: Go screensaver.
Endorphin Dude (: So back to San
Francisco Marathon, I
just decided, I said,
I'm going to do this.
So I knew then I have
to train for this thing.
And so I basically
start training for
a half marathon.
I picked out a half marathon.
I talked to my best
friend, he's been a
runner all his life,
and I, I said to
him, Hey, Charlie.
I'm training for a marathon.
What do I, what do I do?
I don't, I don't even
know where to start.
And I remember back in
the day, this is so funny
because back in the day I
wore like a cotton shirt.
It was a Bart Simpson
cotton t-shirt
that I had had all
these holes in it.
I wore sweat pants,
and just like sneakers,
shoes, you know.
And I just remember
that first run that I
ever did was so hard.
I was just like,
what am I doing?
You know?
So I had to learn all
this, all the learning
of the running things.
Like you gotta have
the right shoes.
There's difference
between a trail shoe
and a road shoe.
You gotta have nutrition.
There's this thing called goo.
I didn't know what
Google I was like,
all right, whatever.
And then electrolytes,
you need electrolytes.
And I was like, okay,
well let's do it.
So I was like that guy
starting out a new thing.
And because you're
like, so brand new to
it, you buy everything
that you think you need.
So I remember walking
into like sports basement
and walking out, spending
like three, $400 on a lot
of things I didn't need.
It motivated for
me to get started.
Now, mind you, this was.
Back in 2009, When
for me, social media
was still kinda new.
I didn't have Instagram
yet at the time.
I mean, I created
a Facebook account,
but I never used it.
So I was just like, all right,
whatever, you know?
And so I started training
for my half marathon.
I picked out the
San Jose rock and
roll half marathon.
That was like my goal race.
So that whole summer,
I trained for this
half marathon and I
worked really hard.
As part of my training
for the half marathon,
I ran my first 5k
in like August.
It was August.
I ran this 5k in
Modesto and I remember.
Ryan was 5k.
I ran it in like, I think
like 28 minutes and...
Kevin Chang: Hey,
that's not bad.
That is great.
Absolutely
Endorphin Dud: ...not that I was
like, okay, this is
okay, this is good.
And so I, two weeks
later I ran my first.
And Kay.
And I think I did that
in like 58 minutes or
something like that.
It was definitely sub one hour.
I was like, okay,
this is awesome.
Things are moving along.
And when it was
time to run the half
marathon, I got really
excited and I went
out a little too fast.
I ran my 5k in 28 minutes
or whatever it was.
I can totally keep
this pace, you know?
And then by mile
eight, I was like, Oh
boy, this is tough.
I did my little
run-walk and then I
picked it up again,
did a little run-walk.
I didn't do too bad guys.
I finished my first
half marathon in two
hours and 15 minutes.
That's not bad!
Kevin Chang: Hey, that's
not that at all, that
is not bad at all.
That's right.
Endorphi: I got hooked onto this
whole running thing,
and particularly half marathons.
I got really hooked
on the half marathon.
So I got really obsessed.
The word moderation
doesn't exist in my vocabulary.
So it's really bad.
That's like my biggest
character flaw,
the word moderation
is my vocabulary.
So I started signing
up for all these races,
you know, and I was
having fun with them.
And so I had signed
up for the Dallas rock
and roll half marathon.
And my friend Sandy said
to me, I dare you to
wear a Cape to this race.
And I was like,
just with clothes.
Okay.
Bertrand Newson: Surprise!
Endorphin D: I'm not sure people
will appreciate
this vietnamese guy,
just in all my glory
running through Dallas.
So my friend Sandy
said, I double dog dare
you to wear a Cape.
So she got me a Cape.
She was like, here wear it.
I was like, okay, sure.
Why not?
So I wore this Cape
and I'm running through
the streets of Dallas.
During this half
marathon, people were loving it.
They were like, Hey,
look at Superman.
Oh, that's great.
Yeah, that's awesome.
You know, and I was
like, okay, this
Cape is coming cool.
It sounds like a good
motivation kind of thing.
You know?
Cause you've guys run races.
You understand?
It's like seeing
someone smile at you,
giving you a high five
or whatnot, it goes
a long way, you know?
So I was seeing that
this was happening
on both sides.
People were motivating
me by saying, good
job, love the case.
But then it was also
motivating other runners
when they see the
Cape and they smile.
It's like, Oh, that's awesome.
And then they get
their burst of energy.
So I wore the Cape
again at another race.
And then another one.
And then that was
basically how an
endorphin dude was born.
That's my origin story.
I ran about maybe 15, 16.
Half-marathons before
I conquered my first
marathon, which was
at the San Francisco
marathon in 2010.
You realize that
was two years ago.
Kevin Chang: So you
did 13 to 14, half
marathons between
like October and July.
The next year you were
running one like one
or two every month.
Endorph: Remember I told you the
word moderation does not
exist in my vocabulary,
so I became addicted
to the half marathon.
Bertrand Newson: How
about some of your
finishing times, did you
shave off and eventually
get, get under that
sub two hour mark?
Endorphin Dude (Tony Ngu: I did.
My current half marathon
PR is 1:55:35 now.
Now get this, though.
That was at the urban cow
half marathon in 2014.
So two years ago in
2018, I was gunning
for that PR at the San
Jose rock and roll half
marathon because San
Jose has a special place
in my heart because
that was my first half
marathon I was racing.
I was running for dear
life finish line Joice
Lee was at the finish
line . And that was Whoa!
When I saw her, I was
so happy to see her,
you know, and I thought
I made it, you know, I
thought I got that PR.
Turns out that time,
once I pulled up on
the computer, on my
phone, 1:55:37, I missed
it by two seconds.
That's okay you know.
Anyway, that's my current
half-marathon PR when
I started training for
the marathon, a marathon
mileage-wise, it's
double the distance.
But it's exponentially harder.
It's not twice as hard.
It's exponentially harder.
Kevin Chang: Yeah.
That's a hundred percent true.
Endorphin Dud: And I find myself
like really having a
hard time, you know,
hitting those latter
miles in training.
So I have to come up with ways.
To make the training
run more interesting.
That's when I had the
cane, I was like, okay,
I'm endorphin, dude.
This is like a video game.
You know, when you're
running through like
the park or wherever,
a new training run,
you're like knocking
out your enemies.
You know, people stopping
you from your run.
So like the little
lady, you know,
across the street
with her bag, grocery
bag, knock her out.
That's 10 points.
I am running along.
And if I may, I'm looking
at my Garmin, I make
it to the next mile.
Marker, I get the power
pellet, you know, like,
you know, that, that
power pellet, that gives
you extra strength, which
in the sense that the
power pellet would be
like a shot of goo or
like something like that.
So I would reward myself,
you know, With a power
pellet and they'll take
me to the next level.
So that's what I did to
train for this marathon.
And I had to come up
with creative ways to
make it work for me.
I ran my first marathon,
San Francisco marathon in
six hours and 11 minutes.
Which is respectable.
I mean, I was okay with that.
In my mind, I kept
telling myself, I
ran a two 15 half
marathon, I can run
a four 30 marathon.
Well, no, that
didn't happen because
the marathon is
exponentially harder.
You can't just double
your half marathon time.
So that's what I
tell everyone, you
know, New to this
whole running thing.
Never assume that
your marathon time
will be double your
half marathon time.
Never assume that
your 100 mile time
will be four times
your marathon time.
Wow.
I ran that half marathon.
It was supposed to
be a one and done
thing one and done
marathon and that's it.
And then I met someone
on the plane coming back
from the new Orleans.
Half marathon.
And her name is Yolanda holder.
If you guys are listening
people out there
listening, Google you
Alondra holder, this
woman is pretty amazing.
She has a couple of
Guinness world records.
Anyway, Yolanda told
me about this club that
she belongs to this club
called marathon mania.
And I was like, all
right, I'll look into it.
You know, I didn't
really believe anything.
She was telling me
because her story just
seems so outlandish,
but you're not apples.
I Googled her and
she's totally legit.
She's done like all
these like crazy
things in the marathon
and ultra distances.
So I said to myself,
okay, well, symbolically
marathon was supposed to
be a one and done deal.
I'll just do three
and done now because
to be eligible, to
become a marathon
maniac, you had to
qualify for the maniac.
One way to do it is
to run three marathons
in three months.
So I was like, okay,
I'll have to do is do
two more marathons.
And I would become
a marathon maniac.
And that way I'll
get the single it.
Cause I was the, always
the fat kid who always
got picked last in PE.
So having that marathon
maniacs single, it was
kinda like my Letterman
jacket kind of deal
from high school.
You know, you know
what I'm talking about?
You know?
Cause that was something
I was never, I was
never an athlete.
So by having that
marathon maniacs single,
it was like, kinda like,
okay, rman jacket, you
know, I'm cool now,
you know, so I did the
three got into marathon
maniacs, and then once I
got into the club, there
are different levels
of marathon maniacs.
You start out at bronze
and then you got silver
gold, and then you work
your way up to 10 stars,
which is titanium level.
And to achieve titanium
level, you have to run
52 marathons in 52 weeks.
So my one and done
marathon would became a
three and done marathon.
All of a sudden turned
into a 52 in 52.
Yes.
Stupid thing about
the whole thing.
In hindsight, I
think about this.
I was like, what was I thinking.
Now, there's no
trophy or anything.
There's no cash
prize for running 52
marathons in 52 weeks.
What you get is 10
spinning HTML stars
on their website.
I want it spinning
HTML to start 2011.
I don't know how I did it.
I completed 52
marathons in 52 weeks.
And that basically
just kind of, once I
did that, I said, all
right, the next logical
step is to go ultra.
.
Kevin Chang: Well, I
onto your ultra running
career, and we know that
you have a storied ultra
running career, I do
want to give back to this
52 marathons in a year.
I mean, 52 marathons
in 52 weeks.
How do you go about planning for
something like that?
How do you go?
I mean, I know that
you traveled quite a
bit to do this, and you
kept your day job while
doing this as well.
So how did you do it
first of all, what was
that experience like?
And what did that
experience teach you?
Okay, so basically.
If anyone plans to do
something like that,
the logistics behind
it is very complicated.
Now, mind you, when I did
this in 2011, we didn't
have the same number of
races that we have now.
I mean, now there
are races everywhere.
I mean, there could be
up to like five, six
marathons per weekend,
you know, within a 100
mile radius, you know,
they're everywhere.
Back when I did it
back in 2011, I didn't
have that luxury.
So I had to do a lot of travel.
Two different States
and also a lot of
driving down to
Southern California.
So it was a logistical
nightmare because
you'd have to plan.
Now, mind you.
The other thing is
that, because back in
2010, 11, when I was
first starting out
with my running thing.
I was a lot slower.
I was new to the
whole running thing.
I was a lot slower.
I wasn't trained, I lacked the
experience back then.
So there were a lot
of reasons I couldn't
do because I couldn't
meet those cutoffs.
A standard marathon
has a six to seven hour
cutoff time, so there
were a lot of races that
I could not sign up for
because I knew I wouldn't
make the cutoffs.
So I had to plan my
schedule around the
races that I could do.
So a lot of those
races would be like,
if there was like a
race, like a 24 hour
race where I knew I had
24 hours to complete a
marathon, I was golden.
So I had to like
find all those first.
And then I have to find
races that I knew had
like a generous cutoff
of beyond seven hours.
That was the logistical
nightmare, trying to
find those things.
Once I found those
things and that's like
deal with like the
financial aspect of it.
Do I fly in?
Do I drive it?
And then you have to
think about recovery.
Kevin Chang: Right.
Endorphi: And I was basically so
tired during the week,
my initial goal was to
run one a week and then
finished in 52 weeks
and everything was fine.
But then by may,
I'm like five, six
months into my quest.
I got injured, I
got sciatica and my
back was just like
killing me for weeks.
I lost like three
weeks of marathoning.
So I had to double
and triple up at
the end of the year.
Bertrand Newson: Oh wow.
Endorphi: Triple three marathons
in three days.
So I had to do that.
There were other
marathons out there
where they have like,
Uh, seven marathons in
seven days, you know,
and things like that.
So I had to do these
things and because I was
coming off of injury, I'm
slow, you know, because
I was back in the pack,
I was doing like eight,
nine hour walk-a-thons.
And I was so tired
once, like November
and December hit, I
was so freaking tired,
but I still had this
goal because, you know,
once you get to like
41 marathons in you're
like, Oh God, I still
got 10 level left.
You don't want to give up.
So I just had to Duke it out and
that's how I did it.
You know, it was tough.
It was one of the tough
things I had to do.
If I were to do it again
today, I can tell you
that it'd be a lot, not
easier, but it wouldn't
be as complicated because
there's so many races
in the area that I could
pick from, you know?
But yeah, that's how I
got through the 52 in 52.
Kevin Chang: What I
love so much about
that story is it's not
a story of capability
or genetics or DNA.
It's a story of want
to have, want to get
after it of persistence,
perseverance.
Through all that time.
It's not the easiest
thing for somebody like
you to do, to be at the
back of the pack and
still want to continue
and still want to go
through, um, all of those
things to hit that goal
for those HTML stars.
So I love, I just
love that story and
what I also love is.
You know, you had the
whole endorphin dude
moniker during most
of those races, right?
During that whole time.
I mean, and every time
I saw you out on the
course, and I think 2011
was probably the year
that I first, you know,
found your social media,
found out who you were
and everything you always
had, the biggest smile.
And so, I mean, I just
applaud you for being
such an inspiration
to everyone during
that whole year,
and then continuing
on that journey.
So, what did you learn
about yourself through
that year of marathons?
Endorph: What I learned in 2011,
just pursuing the whole
titanium quest is that
life is tough, you know.
Life is hard.
But it's what you make of life.
That is what counts, you know?
I mean, I remember I
had a deep appreciation
for every race that
I completed because.
Even though I was
finishing these races in
like eight, nine hours,
whatever it may be, that
was far better than where
I was the previous year
when I was like laying
on my living room floor,
you know, thinking I was
having a heart attack.
So I learned that
I have this deep
appreciation for life.
Life is precious, you
know, and I value life
so much because you know,
you only have one life
and I don't want to see
it come to a premature
end due to reckless
nutritional bad habits
and a life of sedentary,
nothing, you know?
So that's what I learned
from, uh, duking it
out at every race.
Like power walking my way
through sweating and just
being in so much pain.
I learned that I
can do this and I
know I can finish.
that's what I learned from it.
You know, I mean the
finished line may be
far like way out there
in a far distance.
But I knew that
one step at a time
I can get there.
And this applies to every
aspect of life, not just
a marathon, it's like
your job, a project you
have to do relationships,
whatever, you know, one
step at a time, one foot
in front of the other.
So that's what I learned.
Kevin Chang: That's fantastic.
Did you have any mantras
or any, techniques for,
you know, just pushing
your body sometimes
through that pain point.
Endorphin: That goes back to the
whole video game thing.
In my mind, I have to
keep it interesting
and creative, you know?
And so for me, every
race was a video game.
I just want to get
to that next level.
The last thing you want
to happen in a video game
is to lose your lifeline.
You got like three
life, typically three
lifelines, right?
Uh, when you're playing
a video game, And
usually you lose that
first lifeline, like at
mile 18, because that's
the wall, you know?
And so, you know,
you just have to find
ways to get that life
back, you know, so
it's a video game.
Running was a video game to me.
That's how it kept things
interesting and kept
things fun, you know?
And it's also fun to see
people out there and.
I remember I ran a race.
There was a San Diego, uh, Rock
and Roll marathon.
I remember it was a hot day.
I was just like dying and
I got to like mile 22.
There was only like
about nine of us left
on like the course,
you know, everyone
had passed us up.
They were like
sweeping up the core.
They were taking the
cones away and I.
I'm smiling because I
knew that if I start
complaining or just, if I
lost focus, I would never
get to that finish line.
I just wouldn't get to it.
That's why I smile all
the time at these races
because yeah, it may
help someone else get
to the finish line.
But my way is the only
way that I know how to
tell myself you got this
buddy, you got this.
So that's why I smile
a lot, you know?
Cause I know I can get there.
Bertrand Ne: We see clearly that
you're fueled by
inspiration and passion.
And the power beads
also when you're, you
know, you get to your
specifier and you, you,
you get to that next
level and you get power.
But what else feels you from a
nutritional standpoint?
Because doing 52
marathons in 52 weeks,
What were you doing to
stay full of energy?
Endorphin : So here's the thing.
If I were to do this all
over again, there would
be so many different
things I would do.
Honestly, when I was
doing this 52 and
52, I jumped into
it without really
fully having a plan.
So I was just eating
everything in sight
just to make up for
the calorie deficit.
And I wasn't necessarily
eating healthy.
So it was one of
those things that I've
learned kind of later
in my experience, just
running these races
and then moving to
the ultra world that
nutrition and hydration
are so important.
It's key to staying healthy.
So back then I made a
lot of mistakes, you
know, and it costs
me some races because
of the injuries.
But the nutrition,
it wasn't there.
And I felt like I ate
what I needed to survive.
And there was times when
it wasn't too smart.
So I had a lot of junk food.
I'll admit that.
So
Bertrand Newson: I think
we've all been there.
Yeah.
We've all been there for sure.
Endorphin Dude (Tony Nguy: Yeah.
Things are different for
me now, because now that
I've gone through that
whole phase of the whole
titanium thing, this was
like 10, 11 years ago.
I have evolved so much
now that I become smarter
in everything that I do
in terms of my running.
So my nutrition is like
on now my hydration.
And one other thing
that people see often
neglect is rest.
You got to rest.
Like sleep is so
important and having
rest days is important.
I know I said that
moderation does exist my
vocabulary, but I do have
to force myself to take
rest days because you
need that recovery time.
Kevin Chang: Yeah.
I mean, I was about
to ask you about your
recovery, you know,
basically jumping into
52 marathons in 52 weeks
that doesn't give you a
lot of time to recover.
So, what were you doing
to recover back then?
And now with the benefit
of experience in time,
what kind of advice would
you give to somebody
or to your younger self
in terms of recovery?
Endorphin Dud: I would say to my
younger self, take
more ice baths.
I think that that's something.
And invest in a, I
have the, um, the
light compression
thing, Elevated Leg.
That's the name of
the brand Elevated
Leg, which is awesome.
I love my elevated leg
because the compression
that I have on it.
I use all the time now.
I wish I had that back
in the day that would
have made recovery
much better and I would
have eaten better.
I would've fueled
better back then.
That's what I would
tell my younger self,
and to rest more.
And not to stress
out so much, if I
was chasing a cutoff,
you know, I mean to a
degree I still do, but
I manage it better now.
Bertrand Newson: Great feedback.
Kevin Chang: Any favorite
races from that year?
Any favorite memories?
Endorphin : Oh Lord, let me see,
you know, I'm looking
at my metal wall.
Kevin Chang: You
have a metal wall.
It's not just like,
covered in, like,
it's not just like
solid gold over there.
Endorphin Du: I'm in the process
of remodeling.
So not everything is
up yet, so, okay.
I think I know which
one was my favorite.
Um, I ran this race
outside of Vegas.
It's called labor
of love and it was
a weekend running
festival where they had
all these distances.
They had like two
different marathons,
two 50 Ks, a hundred
miler, a 50 miler five.
They had all these things.
So my goal was to
get two marathons in.
So I had to run a
marathon on Saturday
and the 50 K on Sunday.
And I just remember
the reason why I love
that race so much is
because I suffered
through that race.
First of all, there was a
snowstorm thought, no, in
the desert, I was like,
Whoa, this is weird.
It was snowing in
the desert in Vegas.
And the reason why
I remember that race
so much is because I
had such a hard time
completing that 50 K on
Sunday, I had asked the
RD for special permission
to do an early start.
And she said, yeah,
you can start anytime
you want Tony.
So I started at 3: 00
AM and it was such a
hard race because it
was a trail race with a
lot of elevation gain.
And I think that 50 K
took me about 14 hours.
To finish.
Wow.
I finished within
the cutoff, but I
had like a three hour
headstart, whatever.
So it took me like
13, 14 hours to
finish this race.
And I remember when
I crossed the finish
line, I just said to
the RDS, like, thank you
so much for letting me
have that early start.
I'm completely
numb right now, but
it's an honor and a
privilege to be here.
And it was at that point,
she gave me this hug.
That was when I was
like, Oh my God.
I just did back to
back marathon 50 K.
And I just was like,
I felt this kind of
sense of pride, but I
also felt this sense
of shame because
it took me so long.
And then the RD assured
me, it's like nothing
to be shame of nothing
to be ashamed of.
You did awesome.
And the metals were
really cute too.
It was like two little hearts.
I love the metal.
That would be my favorite
race of that year.
Kevin Chang: If you
enjoyed this episode,
then you won't want
to miss the exciting
conclusion to
Endorphin Dude's story.
We get into his quest
for the belt buckle, his
heartbreak on the course
and at home, earning
an entry into the famed
Western States, and
his incredible medal
collection, including
which virtual races
he's signed up for.
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