Paul Fukuma: If you can just
have a moment to genuinely say
yes, change my mind.
I am willing to have my mind
changed.
Not to say that you will, but if
you're willing to have your mind
changed, if you've pretty
surprised, what kind of
information and what kind of
voices you'll hear and what
perspectives you'll be able to
take in.
Kevin Chang: Hello and welcome
to the race mob podcast.
This is episode number 22.
I'm Kevin entrepreneur
technology and fitness nerd, and
the founder of race mob.
I'm joined by master motivator,
founder of two legit fitness
co-chair of the Tazi 100 R R C a
certified coach USA track and
field certified official the
incomparable Bertrand Newson.
We are so excited to welcome
Paul Fukuma to the podcast.
Paul's a fourth generation army
veteran who brought a friendly
little month, long hundred mile
competition.
You might know, as the Taji 100
state side.
I'll let Bertrand give you the
full introduction in a minute,
but I wanted to give you a
couple of tidbits into what
makes this conversation so
special.
Not only did we get into Paul's
background and his experience in
camp Taji, Iraq for the first
ever Taji 100 events.
But we also talk about the
inspiring stories of
participants over the years.
And the reason that Paul's been
doing the event year after year
spending hundreds of hours and
not taking a cent.
We also dig into another topic
and try to get Paul's unique
perspective.
Paul is a public safety officer,
which means that he wears three
different hats as a police
officer, firefighter and EMT.
And as you hopefully recognize
we're currently in a critical
moment in time.
Political tensions are running
high and the world may seem more
divided than ever.
There's a large focus on
systemic racism and even calls
to defund the police.
So I wanted to get Paul's take,
and I didn't give him any
advanced notice, but his honest
answers we're refreshing and
real.
And I just appreciate him so
much for it.
You guys are going to love this
conversation.
And if you want to improve your
health and raise money for an
amazing cause encourage you all
to participate in the Taji 100,
this February.
You can find all of the
information in the show notes at
race mob.com/podcast.
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Bertand Newson: Hello race mob
family.
We're in for a real treat today,
we have the one and only Paul
Fukushima, a hero amongst
heroes, someone who served our
country well in the army,
someone who has been a man of
the community as a firefighter,
as a.
Police officer as a instructor
in the fire Academy and police
Academy, the chairman of the
Tazi 100 fitness challenge that
takes place every year in
February.
He was part of the event in its
inception in 2010 at camp Taji.
And under his leadership, this
event has grown exponentially
and has raised over$200,000
supporting military families.
Paul is our great honor, our
great pleasure to welcome you to
the race mob family, and to
share your story.
Paul Fukuma: an incredible honor
to be here.
I must admit I am a little
nervous, my very first podcast.
So this is all foreign territory
to me.
When you advise me on here, I
wasn't quite sure what to
expect.
So this is definitely an issue
experience.
Kevin Chang: Well, nothing to be
nervous about.
I mean, I think, you know,
you're a good hands with
Bertrand me.
We just want to get to know you
a little bit better and be able
to share your story with our
audience.
As I understand it, you are Bay
area native.
Is that right?
Did you kind of grow up in the
Bay?
Paul Fukuma: Yeah, by mother,
father sell down kind of West
San Jose.
And that's where I was raised
about six or so.
they divorced when I was real
young.
I don't even have memories of
them being together.
But it wasn't the greatest
neighborhood in San Jose and it
was starting to go downhill
pretty fast.
So mom recognized that.
And so she got me out of there
and relocated me to Sunnyville
when I was like the fifth grade
or so.
And that's all I remember is, so
I could say I was born and
raised Sunnyvale that's
community that I've known ever
since South Bay is what I know
that's about it.
Bertand Newson: And Sunnyville,
I mean, not to steal anyone's
thunder, but that city is very
special to you for many reasons.
So we'll kind of hold onto that
and plant those seeds.
and the good work that you're
doing in that beautiful various
city in Sunnyville that you call
home.
Kevin Chang: Tell us a little
bit about the military
background.
I know that it kind of goes back
in your family.
Fourth generation.
Is that right?
Paul Fukuma: I'm the fourth
generation us army.
My great grandfather on my
mother's side was.
World war one, both grandfathers
will work to both my mother's
side and my father's side, which
was Japanese.
So that has some significance to
my father, Vietnam.
And then for me, Iraq was pretty
interesting.
So I didn't really know much
about my family's military
lineage growing up.
I mean, I knew that all of them
were in it.
I knew all of them served, but
it really didn't.
How much meaning or impact to me
until I made the decision to
enlist and what's, I don't know
it was interesting or not, but I
enlisted completely separate
from that motivation.
It wasn't like, Oh, I want to
continue this path.
I decided to enlist.
And it's only then that
everything started to come to
the surface and I realized how
significant.
The military was in my family.
So my father's side is Japanese.
My grandparents on that side
were put in camps during world
war two.
And during my grandfather's
stent in there, he volunteered
to translate Japanese code and
language for the military.
And then once released.
He wanted to prove how he loved
America and love United States.
He enlisted in the service test
to show no resentment, hard
feelings.
Like, no, I believe in this
country and to prove it, I'm
going to be a staff Sergeant
United States army.
Yeah.
It's a pretty significant.
And despite all that, my dad was
in college.
He could have easily avoided the
draft, but he also said no,
people are serving.
And I need to do my duty as
well.
So he voluntarily went down to
the recruiter and enlisted.
He went to Vietnam.
He earned two bronze stars while
in service, as a radio operator
for an infantry unit.
And then, I decided to enlist in
2002.
Yeah.
Shortly after nine 11 instant.
And.
I want to do something pretty
significant.
So I went in the medical realm
and became a combat medic for
the army and served four years
active.
That was very proud chapter in
my life.
For sure.
I got out in 2006, got recalled
actually, for those who don't
understand military service, you
have, let's say you were to
enlist right now.
You get four years active
service and then there's another
four years after that.
Where they kind of still have
you on retainer.
So at any time they could just
say, Hey, remember that thing
you did a few years back.
Yeah.
I'll come on back in again.
Kevin Chang: Wow.
Paul Fukuma: Yeah.
I would just sit in my house or
my apartment and my old man.
My dad calls me and says,"Hey,
Paul, uh, I just, uh, signed
this FedEx package for you from
the department of defense.""You
did what?
Did you sign for
Kevin Chang: that?
You
Bertand Newson: new what it was?
Paul Fukuma: And I already knew
what it was I already knew was
going to be, and sure enough, it
was ordered to come back in.
So they sunk their teeth into
me, pulled it back in and
deployed me for a 14 months
stint over in Iraq.
Kevin Chang: And that was 2008.
Is that right?
2009.
Wow.
Paul Fukuma: Yes.
Kevin Chang: So first four
years, was that also Iraq?
Paul Fukuma: No, that was all
state side.
I worked out in good old
Georgia.
My first taste of the world
outside of the bubble, that is
the Bay, Jamie, a true taste of
how.
Kevin Chang: Okay.
Paul Fukuma: Diverse, we'll call
it.
This country truly can be.
Yeah, there's a lot of countries
within this country.
And if someone that has never
been outside of California or
even, especially the Bay area,
it's very, they have their eyes
open and should start traveling
and checking out.
It's no different, get a new
perspective and you spend a long
period of time just in a
different state, let alone a
different part of this state.
Kevin Chang: Tell us about that
second stint, 2009.
So you've been recalled, I guess
the first stance you were
stateside.
So you didn't really have to go
overseas.
What was that feeling like of
being called overseas?
And were you nervous?
Scared.
Paul Fukuma: Scared.
I was, I think in my mind it was
always something that I wanted.
I think I missed out on, or I
didn't do my full duty as
military.
Enlistee those kinds of.
Topsy turvy had already
established a career.
I'd already been an officer with
sounds a police for four years
at that point.
So I was already living my life.
Like I thought I'd closed that
chapter and I'm starting a new
one.
And then it just kind of turned
into a Quentin Tarantino film,
or I just.
Started jumping back chapters
and back and forth.
So I'd put everything here on
hold, put everything in storage.
So it definitely was Catherine
wrench in the mix for plants,
but I didn't find it.
I was actually pretty excited to
go to do this and.
Well, yes, a deployment sucks.
There's just no way else to
describe it, but we're very
proud of the experience.
I learned an incredible amount,
the experience I gained, the
knowledge I obtained, I could
never, ever have acquired that.
Had I not deployed.
I have some lifelong friends
that hopefully we'll stay in
touch long into our elder years.
So it's been a powerful
experience.
And of course, ultimately that
series of events has brought us
to today and Taji 102, a Git and
race Bob and all my friends in
hair.
So I got to say it was a good
path to take.
Bertand Newson: We salute and
thank you for your service.
And, you know, let's talk about
2010 and camp Taji, army base,
and the morale at the time,
looking at things through your
eyes and how Taji got on your
radar.
Paul Fukuma: of the bigger
problems that deployment is.
Yes.
You have the enemy, right?
The bad guys with the bad guys,
ladies with guns, but that's a
small percentage that the bigger
threat is boredom.
Boredom is a big problem.
Our Sergeant major, when we got
landed in country, he said, when
you leave country, you're either
going to bench press 500 or way
500.
Bertand Newson: Yeah.
Paul Fukuma: that's true.
Because, you know, either
they're going to sit around and
eat and be bored and not do
anything and have a kind of
life, or are gonna take
advantage of the opportunity
because you don't have TV.
You have very ancient, like
stone-age ancient internet just
for emails.
So you can't surf the web or do
anything.
There's no outside distractions
other than just your little tiny
community here.
So you really have an
opportunity if you wanted to
really maximize on your fitness
and health.
So morale is kind of low because
let's face it in a lot of these
units.
You have 18, 19 year olds that
never been away from home.
And now they're shipped halfway
across the world in a combat
environment.
So.
They need distraction.
Right?
So a captain within our unit,
Carol Pardot, she sees an
opportunity to capitalize on the
cardiac, this heart health month
of February.
And she's like, Hmm, what's the
militaries answer for morale,
making everybody a run, but
really.
What does a one 5k really do,
right.
Okay.
Yeah, we ran.
So we had something to do this
morning and now we're back to
the board again.
So she thought the idea, what if
we have a month long challenge
as the shortest month of the
year and say a hundred miles,
let's see if you could knock out
a hundred miles at a 28 days,
some people were naysayers and
they're like, Oh, what a great
recipe for stress fractures?
But ultimately it was a great
experience because we found
there's a lot of competitiveness
and obviously type A
personalities in the military.
Right.
It gave us something to focus on
something to do, or always
keeping track of stuff.
It's something to look forward
to the next day to try and knock
out more things.
Health wise, people are getting
in great health and they had
something to look forward to.
It's funny, I was 10 or 11
months into my deployment.
I had not come home on RNR yet.
Almost every else in the unit
had, but I was planned to come
home for my 30th birthday in
March.
So I had to leave cause it takes
quite a few days to travel from
obviously Iraq back to the
States.
So I had to leave about a week
early, so I was like, Ooh, if I
do this, I'm gonna have to do
this 21 days.
Bertand Newson: Wow.
Paul Fukuma: Um, but I did it,
uh, I was very sore afterwards,
but I did it and it was quite an
accomplishment and we were
talking about it constantly
after it was all said and done.
Yeah.
So that was in, in Taji, Iraq.
That's where we were stationed,
which the little base just
Northwest of Baghdad, like a 15
minute helicopter ride Northwest
of Baghdad.
Wonderful place.
I got to tell you the only two
good things I liked about Iraq
was the sunrise and the sunset,
the there's so much dust and
smoke in the air.
It makes the most beautiful
oranges and reds I've ever seen.
But the 23 hours spread between
the two moments.
Yeah.
That was not beautiful in any
way.
Kevin Chang: Well, tell us a
little bit about where did you
guys run?
Did you guys run inside the
base?
Were there like pathways and
stuff?
And what types of shoot were you
running in boots or did you guys
have running shoes?
Paul Fukuma: It's kind of hard
to picture.
I mean, you're in Iraq, it's a
theater for, and you're out for
a run.
Well, the fog is before
operating base is actually
pretty big.
And so there's, if you were to
run, you can run pretty much
t-shirt shorts in the center of
it and be free or somewhat free
of concern of things being shot
over the wall to come get you.
But we also had hardened
structures.
So there was these gyms.
They had steel reinforced
concrete walls, all the way
around and big steel roofs and
stuff.
So if mortars and things came
over, we'd have some shelter
protection.
So we'd wear our armor walk all
the way over to this gym.
Kind of dump it off at the door,
go in there and lift some
weights.
Scott treadmill run around a
little bit, get sweaty, but then
put our little gear back on him.
Walk off to our living quarters.
It was interesting for sure.
It's not like going to a gym
here, like, Oh, I'll just wear
this nice workout shirt.
No,
Kevin Chang: And I guess before
Taji, were you a runner, would
you consider yourself a runner
before then?
Paul Fukuma: I wasn't actually,
I hated running with a passion.
I was trying to be the more of
like, well, my Sergeant majors
said I can lift 500 pounds.
I'm gonna beat that guy.
So I tried really hard to do a
bulking upper thing, and I
looked back and yeah, my brute
strength was through the roof,
but I was also super heavy and
had no cardio or no stamina, no
endurance.
And it wasn't a good feeling for
me, but when I started getting
into this, I wasn't never been a
fast runner, never been crazy
and speed.
I can't do, you know, five
minute miles around like that,
but I was able to experience
that thing called a runner's
high that'll Zen moment where
yeah, the first two minutes suck
and everything's tight and
everything's stiff.
And you're like, Oh, I God, how
many more of this?
Right, but then there's that
middle part where you just kind
of zone out and you're in your,
like your happy place.
And that's what was great for me
in Taji or during the 100 is I
have for an hour, two hours, I
would completely forget where I
was.
I would just be on a treadmill
and I would, so now I have my
little earbuds and scrapped from
whatever CDs I can find.
And I would completely drift off
into fantasy land.
Completely forget that I was in
Iraq.
Completely forget that I was
thousands of miles away from my
friends and family completely
forget about all the stresses of
the job I was doing over there.
And it was my escape.
That was my escape.
Those two hours of just want to
treadmill just cranking out
miles.
And then after it was done, I
was, I was almost like, man, I
have to stop now.
Uh, And then I look forward to
the next day.
Yay.
I get to go out to my happy
place and I'd go back to the
gym.
Yeah.
So it's definitely an
interesting thing.
We try to have a few half
marathons there, but it's
challenging when you're
restricted to not Armour running
in a very small environment.
Bertand Newson: Track your miles
from there.
Paul Fukuma: So Carol decided,
well, the whole way we track is
we would email her all of our
miles.
So every day she would have, I
can't, I wish I knew how many, I
wish I could have the original
documents, but it must've been a
hundred soldiers emailing her
every day, their miles and
stuff.
Right.
And so she would have this big
group email and then have to
email all of us every day to
show us kind of the stats, like
the spreadsheet of what's going
on.
Right.
But ultimately she always had a
big disclaimer, Hey, I'm just a
doctor.
I'm not a mathematician.
So if I mess up your fault, you
checked it miles, which you got
remind me of later.
Cause that brings up a pretty
funny story about our first year
Taji state side, too.
Kevin Chang: Let's bring it
back.
Stay sides you were deployed for
about 14 months, you said.
And so that was a couple of
months after Taji.
Paul Fukuma: Yeah.
So came back and, you know,
really trying to get back into
civilian life was that harder
than I thought, you know, I
thought like I just jumped right
into it, but that's not true at
all.
There's definitely a growing
period to try to get back to
just a normal flow, everything
from, you know, having to pick
out clothes to wear.
I mean, I didn't have to pick
out what I had to wear every
day.
It was a uniform, right.
And, Oh, I got to pay bills now
and I got to put gas in the car
or something like that.
You know, that's deal with any
of that.
So it was definitely had some
growing things and I miss the
comradery that is grown through
a deployment.
You really become tight with
people around you.
You find that everyone needs to
find something in common with
each other, and really become a
really tight knit community.
Because you're all that you
have.
Right.
And they have each other and
that's it.
So I decided to do a kind of
informal Taji, 100 state side,
maybe a dozen people from the
unit.
And so a lot of people that I
knew that were interested in
doing it, and it was literally
paper and pen, you know, people
would email me or something and
I'd write it down and I'd keep a
little kind of handwritten
spreadsheet and.
It was kind of fun, you know?
Uh, it felt good and keep in
touch with people, but I
thought, you know what?
Maybe this could be a little
bigger.
Let's see where it goes.
I bought a godaddy.com website
and register a URL.
I've never done any of that
before I had no idea I was
doing, and I got some stock
images and some cut and paste
stuff and put my little Facebook
page.
And before I knew it, I had, how
many, B?
Like, 200 people, maybe?
Kevin Chang: Wow.
Paul Fukuma: And it was
completely organic.
I didn't advertise or anything.
It's just, Hey, everybody check
this guy's event out.
And 200 people every day, Kevin,
would email me their miles and I
would keep a spreadsheet, an
Excel spreadsheet.
I have no idea how to do all
that mathematics and
spreadsheets and computer stuff.
I spent probably two to three
hours a day, updating
spreadsheets and updating the
website because I would actually
get people emailing me angry.
Paul I've just emailed you 42
seconds ago.
Why?
I don't see my miles on there.
Kevin Chang: I see Bertrand
covering his mouth.
Paul Fukuma: So here I am.
Back in San Jose PD and I'm like
working and I'm trying, I'm
dealing with like dangerous
people and I'm trying to like
get criminals in the jail.
And I'm constantly these text
messages.
Why aren't you updating the
website yet?
Kind of busy right now, you
know?
But it was overwhelming.
How many people found it
inspiring to them?
Not just a fun event, motivating
and inspiring.
And I thought I never meant it
to be an inspirational thing.
How interesting that this thing
can inspire people.
I had one person come and tell
me that she suffered from
horrific migraines.
Just this debilitating
migraines.
We're talking two days a week,
just completely incapacitated by
migraines.
Okay.
Medicated the whole bit.
And she told me that she tried
it.
She would go out when she could,
and she got more active and more
active and it spawned a new
passion, her to be active.
And by being active that way,
she had reduced all of her
headaches and migraines down to
once a month or even less.
Just by instilling an active
lifestyle into her that she
never thought she could do
before.
And I thought to myself, all
that work, even if it all fails,
it helped one person that meant
a lot to me.
Bertrand said, Hey, let's get
together and make this kind of
bigger thing.
Let's start making some,
t-shirts like, Oh my gosh
products.
We're going to start selling
products now.
Oh, okay.
This is getting pretty serious.
All right.
Bertand Newson: Blame Becky on
that one.
Paul Fukuma: Oh yeah.
I'll play Becky on that one.
Yeah.
And so.
We started doing that and it
really snowballed.
We started realizing we're
getting bigger and bigger.
So we've started looking at the
legalities of it became five Oh
one nonprofit.
We started trying to tie
ourselves with bigger
organizations.
Now what's interesting about
Taji is this.
I have no idea how we survive
this long because those first
few years, when we tried to
raise money for military
charities, I don't want to cuss
on her program, but it was a
garbage show.
All right.
We've got to have people
register with us.
You had to register with an
online tracking service, a
different kind of running site,
and then you had to register
with the charity to donate.
So you had to go to three
different websites.
Just to participate in all this
matter.
And yet somehow we had people
continuing to return and
Bertrand said to me, Paul, that
should tell you how significant
this event is that people are
willing to go through and jump
through all those hoops and go
through this huge process.
Just to take part in this, I
should tell you how significant
this is and how much it would
impact you really having on
people.
And I never thought about it
like that.
It made a lot of sense.
We continued to grow and we
partnered up with a military
charity and we thought we were
doing good.
They end up getting into some
hot water for some mismanagement
of funds.
So we had to kind of distance
ourselves from them.
And then, uh, we found RWB team
red, white, and blue.
And I don't think we could have
found a better fit for our
mission.
And for those who don't know
about team red, white, and blue,
I'm gonna give a little quick
plug to them.
They take military service
members who are coming out of
the service and try to
assimilate them and teach them
how to be part of society again,
which I can tell you from
personal experience, is a much
needed program, right?
We're talking leadership
trainings and camps, counseling
services, the gamut, whatever
someone may need to try to come
back to civilian world, they
provide it and then they do it
in an athletic media.
Like, Hey, let's go off for a
run.
The squad for an athletic event
and what we're doing it, let's
talk, is that a shot and see
what we can do to get you on the
right path?
You know, that's huge.
That's perfectly aligned with
who we are, where we've been,
where we came from and what we
want to do.
They're very open with their
funds are very transparent.
And so their honesty and
integrity is through the roof.
I can't speak higher about them.
And anyway, so I feel very
honored and blessed that they'd
be willing to partner up with
us.
And support us and our efforts
to help support them.
And in turn, trying to give back
to the thousands of women and
men who are currently serving
and who have served to try to
get back to their families and
be a part of society again.
Kevin Chang: Well, yeah, and I
know, I see RWB on the course
all over the place.
I know I've met a couple of them
a year.
Definitely during my marathons.
I'm always falling behind, I
think like Scott cruise shanks
up here in San Francisco and,
and.
I mean, they always have such a
big crew.
I seem to remember a lot of them
participated in Taji kind of in
some of those early years.
Is that kind of how you guys
met?
Paul Fukuma: It is, it is, uh,
several of their members are
became part of Taji and they
recognize how awesome this was.
And when we started looking for
a new chair, they seized the
opportunity to make the
introduction.
And that really just set a
wildfire chain of events.
They were, do I blew as reach
out to all their chapters
nationwide and we've grown
exponentially.
I mean, I think we hit how many,
B 6,000 or so people worldwide,
not Countrywide worldwide.
And just this last year we
cumulatively run enough miles to
go to the moon and back.
And the 28 days, I mean, that's.
That's staggering, absolutely
staggering.
And we're able to raise enough
money in those 28 days to write
them a check for$74,000.
Kevin Chang: Oh, wow.
Paul Fukuma: That's after all
the overhead, all the fees and
everything.
Here's a check for 74,000 and
change.
That's more than many people
make an entire year, and we just
did it in a month.
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I want to go back and figure out
how you guys met.
There's gotta be a story here.
I mean, it's.
First and the first time I ever
met you, you told me about Taji
100.
It wasn't about to legit.
It was, Hey, there's this thing,
Taji that comes up in February,
that I want to support helping
these guys out, helping this
charity.
And that was back in July of
2013 that we first met.
And February of that next year,
I definitely participated in
Taji because I mean, what an
incredible event, what an
incredible experience
altogether.
And yeah, I definitely had never
even thought about that.
We're running a hundred miles in
a month, let alone the smallest
month of the entire year.
So tell me about the story.
How did you guys meet.
Paul Fukuma: Through Taji.
It was that very.
First, uh, event where we had to
go day.com website.
Here comes Bertrend at a left
field, just an overwhelming
force of energy and motivation.
I got to tell you Bertrand's
energy is contagious.
I mean, you can't be around him
at not also be motivated and
pumped up and just inspired.
So here I am, just some guy.
In my little apartment in San
Jose, getting messages from a
guy named Bertrand, and I'm
getting pumped up like, wow,
this guy is cool.
He's getting me all checked up
and thinking, this is a cool
event.
And he's giving me this great
vision of what this event could
be.
And he's put me in connections
with Becky Hernandez and some
other crate folks, uh, through
the event.
To be honest, I can't remember
when we first actually met up.
Bertand Newson: I believe, uh,
it was certainly you're correct.
2012.
And for our listeners that
event, I mean, I had started
running a year earlier, but I
fell in love with running
because of Taji 100.
I fell in love with the
comradery even more.
So the running community because
of Taj 100.
The mission spoke to me
personally because my father to
served in the military, my
father to serve in the army.
So every flip that I put in
front of myself, every mile that
I logged, it was with the
purpose of honoring his time,
his service and all the other
service men and women are a
great country and meeting Paul.
It may have been in San
Francisco at the wrap-up event
at the hotel I was managing at
the time.
Uh, may.
Yeah, you and Wendy, granted, we
had interacted on multiple
occasions.
We also had Jim Cordoba is part
of that initial ties, 100 kind
of semi admin group, Becky, of
course.
And then in later years, Nando
Gonzalez been meeting you and
Wendy and seeing that when you
articulate, Hey B, this is just
a small, I'm doing all this op
blogging, all those entries and
knowing that you are a law
enforcement professional, and
still making time to.
Support and participate and then
just hats off to you, man.
Fantastic.
And you're one of my closest
friends.
And again, it is your vision,
you taking this wonderful
challenge and bring it at home
state side and what it's grown
into and how many people
impacted from a health and
wellness perspective.
Self-confidence people are
living longer and happier
because you wanted to shoulder
that responsibility.
In facilitating this challenge.
And we did have some tough times
I can share with our listeners.
You probably don't want me to
this gentleman.
This dude came out of pocket.
We were in the red for a couple
of years.
He came out of his own pocket to
subsidize and keep this event
alive before we caught some
traction.
And then you, I mean, it's, I
cannot thank you enough.
The Tazi 100 participants
cannot.
Thank you enough, you and your
wonderful family, your
significant other Wendy has
certainly contributed so much.
Paul Fukuma: Yeah, she...
monstrous force behind this
whole thing.
When we first met, we weren't
even married.
I think we were just engaged at
that time.
And I'm just thinking about how
young and wrinkle-free and
grateful.
At that time.
Kid-free so definitely a lot
more sleep.
Didn't have any of these back
then.
Right?
And Oh, and that was only what,
seven years ago or less than
that, or a little more than
eight years ago.
Yeah, we had some tough times,
financially I had scraped
together some money to try to
keep this thing afloat because
we were in the red.
Luckily it's just started
gaining more traction and we
started bringing in more
positive people, more motivated
people.
And to kind of just share
something with you, a little
personal perspective here every
year into Taji, where it could
get into it.
I go.
Oh, this is so much work.
I don't want to do this anymore.
I want this to be the last year
I want to be done with this.
I'm so done with this and I
literally, I kid you not Kevin.
I lose all motivation.
I go to zero, but I do this and
I continue for a very selfish
reason.
And that's for the stories that
come out of it from
participants.
Every year without fail, I'll
have at least a handful of
people write to me and talk to
me.
And their stories are so
humbling.
So impactful to me, it motivates
me and inspires me.
So I do this selfishly to
motivate myself, putting us out
there, looking for other people,
to hear those stories, to get
passionate and motivation to me,
for example, the last year 2020,
I had gentleman write to me and
he said, Paul, I've made some
very poor life decisions.
I am grossly overweight.
I am by definition of morbidly
obese and cumulatively.
Like in multiple attempts
throughout one day, I can barely
make one mile.
That's significant.
I mean, that's, let's think
about that.
That's saying he's multiple
temps, not just one or two, but
three or more attempts to go out
and move and cumulatively.
his limit is one mile and that
should give you a perception of,
of how bad of health he has
taken.
The journey has taken and he
trained up for the event.
He's like, I want to use this as
an opportunity.
I'm going to.
To make a decision.
And I want to use your event as
an opportunity to try to get my
life back on track.
And by the end of it, the ones
he was doing two or three miles
at a time going from, you know,
a third of a mile to three
miles.
I mean, if I said, Hey,
Bertrend, I've got a one month
program for you.
And by the end of that month,
I'm going to give you a 100
times more endurance distance
capability.
For free.
Right.
That's what he did.
He, he did a hundred times
better and he told me he lost,
30 something pounds and the
January, February at East,
continuing to move.
And I thought every morning when
I would get up and on a cold
February morning, like, Oh, but
that's so warm.
I don't want to use button just
right there.
All I gotta do is touch you and
you'll go away.
Go away alarm, go away.
I thought about this gentleman.
He is not an exaggeration, not
metaphorical.
He is literally fighting for his
life.
If he can roll out of bed and
endure and have the pride
motivation to take himself out
there and knock out a quarter
mile, half mile at a time.
What excuse do I have to not do
the same?
That's inspiring.
That was motivated.
And it's motivating to me to
think that something that we
created has helped him or given
him an out or an ability to help
himself actually, that's what
it's done.
We haven't helped him.
We have given him the ability to
help himself for him to help
himself.
I got to tell you, well,
Bertrand, in the first event, a
lot of our guys, they crushed
these miles and I'll go, Oh my
God, how could they do, how
could a sky run a hundred miles
in 23, 23 hours?
Like last year at Bertrand goes
4,000 miles and 28 days.
It's incredible.
Right?
It's like, he's on like a segway
this entire time.
I don't know what he's
Kevin Chang: Wait, wait, are you
literally 4,000 miles in 28
days,
Bertand Newson: No fake news in
this case, That it's fake news.
Kevin Chang: but was it, uh, did
you do a hundred miles in 23
hours?
Should you want it?
Paul Fukuma: We've had some
people in 2020.
Kevin Chang: Wow.
Bertand Newson: I have not, I
think my bed, maybe four days,
four and a half days for me.
Um, yeah, I'm slacking Slack and
compare it to.
Kevin Chang: Yeah, come on
Slacker keep up here.
Paul Fukuma: Let yourself go.
That's great.
Kevin, their physical
capabilities demand, respect.
And I've always said to
everybody to demand respect, and
I'm always in awe of it, but
sorry, but those stories, aren't
the ones that motivate me.
They're not the ones that will
make me get out of bed and crush
it.
Those aren't the ones that
inspire me.
The ones that inspire me are the
guys that could barely do this
Taji 60, but they're trying
every day.
It's those people out there,
there who haven't done anything.
And now they're making a
commitment may have changed.
Those are the inspirational
stories.
Those are the ones I live for
and I yearn for every year and
every year without fail, they
have come in and not just sent
new people every year.
So yeah, I do this every year
for very selfish reasons and
that's to wait for those stories
to come in, to motivate me so
that I can get my butt out of
bed and do something productive.
Bertand Newson: Well said, and
as much as we talk about you
bringing this event stateside,
you know, because you
facilitated the fulfillment,
meaning sending out all of the
Tashi, sweat, and the last
couple of years, you were
sending a lot of gear and merch
out to people that are serving
right now, internationally at
banks across the world.
So, you know, any examples of
that you may want to share.
Paul Fukuma: Last year was
unprecedented.
I think we had almost 200 people
actively deployed in a theater
of war, serving our country in
the military who participate in
Taj 100.
That's incredible.
It's like.
People actually in Taji, Iraq, I
mean, Taji, actually that fog
got closed.
We surrendered it and gave it
over to the Iraqi police.
And then for some reason,
politics, society decided to
reacquire it and make it us
military again.
And some service members in Taji
decided, Hey, we're already
here.
That's pretty cool.
Let's give it a go.
We had an entire unit from one
60th soar at special operations,
aviation regiment.
I mean, they're the guys like
you see a black Hawk down those.
They were the guys that flew
those helicopters and, and all
that kind of stuff.
So people make movies about
their job.
All right.
And they're participating in
Taja 100.
So the reaches of this event
have gone beyond my wildest
dreams or fathoms.
It's.
It's incredible.
Bertand Newson: And I believe I,
I don't believe, I know without
a doubt defined a new level of a
virtual event, we've been doing
it for about a decade now.
I mean, and the mission.
Is what speaks to everybody.
The mission is so clear and
profound.
It is bigger than your miles.
You're doing it for a greater
cause.
And the unique thing about is
you don't have to actually
donate.
You can just participate because
at its inception was about
cardio health and mental health.
And for people to say, you know
what, I want to pay it forward
and come out of pocket and
donate.
Um, that's just all bonus.
And if the event that keeps on
giving and I mean a virtual
event that is much different.
Then the prevalent amount of
virtual events that are
happening right now, because of
the mission and the history of
it.
Paul Fukuma: It has a unique
flavor, right?
Because cause you can easily
participate in this event
absolutely free.
And because that's our mission,
it's just to try to find a way
to inspire Americans, to become
a more active, healthy life.
But if you have the ability and
you want some cool swag in the,
and you want to do be part of
the bigger picture, then you
can.
Part pay to participate and be a
part of that huge donation
check, component.
So, yeah, it's, uh, own a lot of
events.
There's a place, right?
We try to be number one or
number two.
No, this is your challenge.
You're going against yourself.
Can, what can you accomplish in
your day?
So that's, I think that's
another unique flavor that we
have versus a lot of other
virtual events out there.
Bertand Newson: A million raise,
support, move with your
charities.
And, you know, there was a point
where we thought 5,000, 10,000,
$15,000, and we're looking in
the future on the horizon,
potentially a six figure check,
because of the cumulative
efforts of so many wonderful
people spreading the word
organic.
We don't do a lot of
advertising.
Paul Fukuma: Now when you're
done, we don't pay for no
advertising.
None.
Everything's completely organic.
Hey sister-in-law I did this
really cool thing.
You should be interested in this
year and then it just spreads.
Yeah, actually a new officer.
So.
I work for the city of Sunnyvale
in California.
Now I'm not longer San Jose.
Uh, a newer officer came in and
she was sitting on our briefing
table and I decided, well, let's
come up time for Taji.
Maybe I could plug this to my
team.
So I talk about it and she goes,
Todd, you a hundred.
You're part of that.
I've been doing that for the
last three years and I had never
met her before.
Right.
It's like, Oh, pretty cool.
Yeah, actually I am part of it.
Let me tell you some more.
Bertand Newson: Okay.
Kevin Chang: Before we get too
far off subject.
I do want to know about the
swag.
Um, there's some behind the
scenes.
I know you guys are working
behind the scenes on some of
this stuff.
So if people do want to donate,
what is the suggested donation
amounts you get schwag and what
type of swag is available for
this upcoming 2021?
Paul Fukuma: Well, we sell a
packet, we just take a one flat
fee that includes a shirt, a
race metal, like a race bib and
some other nice little trick
things like some state decals
and stuff.
Also some nice gifts from team
red, white, and blue, which
they'll be contributing to help
support this.
But$25 of that is earmarked just
as a donation.
Like not twenty-five dollars
minus some fees, I guess
twenty-five bucks goes to RSVP,
right?
So that's pretty significant.
We take very little cut.
Our cut is about 10 bucks out of
this$70 packet.
So we really don't make much
money at all on this and
everything just goes right into
next year's event.
We take zero.
I get paid zero for this event.
Bertrand takes not a single
penny for this event.
No one on the staff gets paid.
Anything.
We do this 100% labor of love
hours and hours and hours a day,
committed to this completely on
the mission and that's to help
others.
So when I tell people that and
they kind of write to us, I
haven't gotten my stuff right
away.
They expect Amazon kind of.
Hi, I am literally working in my
kitchen, packaging your stuff.
And my six year old is helping
me.
That's very humbled.
A lot of people are like, Oh, we
had no idea.
It was so grassroots.
We thought we were like a big
company.
No, no, we're not.
My garage has two pallets and
2,600 pounds of race metals
sitting in there and welcome to
my house.
Kevin Chang: Incredible.
Why do you want to learn a
little bit more?
I mean, we've, we've hinted at
nuggets of it, but.
You know, you came back and you
rejoined the police force, but
then you also kind of have a
different role that I had not
heard before.
Paul Fukuma: Back from Iraq.
And I went back to sounds, I
police.
And then in 2013, I lateraled
over to Sunnyvale department of
public safety and they're a very
unique entity.
So every one, there is a police
officer, a firefighter, and an
AMT simultaneously.
So every police officer you see
there is a firefighter and every
firefighter see there is a
police officer and every time
you see them, they're all UMTS.
So I can put my hat on and
change, whatever I need to do to
solve whatever emergency may
present itself.
When I worked patrol, I have my
firefighter stuff in the trunk
of the car.
If a house caught on fire, I
drive up, stripped out on my
Shoney's right there at middle
of the street, put on my fire
gear, fight the fires, save the
cat in a tree or whatever it may
be.
Take it off, put my patrol gear
back on and go out and write a
speeding ticket or something.
And then vice versa.
If I'm on fireside and heaven
forbid something heinous was to
happen.
The tools as a fire rig, we can
go help with that.
Meanwhile, we're all responding
to medical science.
And the patrol car, I would
respond to heart attacks all the
time because we could get there
really fast.
We have AEs and all the patrol
cars, so we can render aid much
faster than getting there in a
fire rig.
So it's definitely a unique
system.
I love how it works and I love
that I can show up to any house.
Cause when I first started and
public service, a very senior
Sergeant would tell me, Paul,
the call you get is never the
call you got meaning you'll get
there and you think it's called,
Oh, number one, there's a noise
complaint.
Next door you get there.
And it's actually a baby having
a medical emergency.
Oh, it's not a Meg.
It's not a noise complaint.
It's not law enforcement matters
is a medical call.
Well, in a traditional agency, I
would say, okay, uh, Hey
dispatch, send me fire EMS.
And then we'd have to sit there
and wait from show up.
But here in Sunnyville, I am the
EMS.
No problem.
Let me pull my bag out of my car
and start helping you and your
family.
And, but we can wait for an
ambulance to show up and more
medical personnel so you can get
help right there on the spot.
I love the system.
I'm much.
I drink the Kool-Aid of it being
a phenomenal program.
It's been in place since the
1950s.
I mean, it's, it's definitely
got it worked out well.
Bertand Newson: And Paul, one
thing that I think you may have
left out with, perhaps the many
hats that you wear, you've also
done some CSI work, correct?
Paul Fukuma: I was a crime scene
investigator for Sunnyvale.
And now I'm currently an arson
investigator for Sunnyvale.
And then I teach EMS at the
sounds of police Academy.
I am a tactical medic for our
Sunnyvale SWAT team.
I teach at the Sunnyvale fire
Academy, police ft, field
training officers.
So I would sit in the car and
I'd have a brand new recruit
behind the wheel.
And I show her him around the
town and train him up to be an
officer.
And I'm a fire field training
officer.
So doing that, I've taught.
Tactical medicine to numerous
other law enforcement agencies
throughout the Bay area, like
Alameda County Sheriff's office,
and CHPs sounds a Campbell, all
that.
So I've definitely found a
passion for teaching.
Bertand Newson: Teaching and
learning.
What does that mean in the midst
of the pandemic?
Will you just outlines the
multiple jobs capacities you
manage through beautiful family
wife, three kids, but your
commitment to continue
education.
Just share with our listeners,
what you accomplished this year.
In addition.
Paul Fukuma: When I started this
whole profession, I only had my
socialist degree.
That's it.
I had my little AAS degree and
that was it.
And then, uh, it was count time.
Like, you know what, I'm tired
of always having that box, not
checked, uh, finish my college
degree.
You know, I, it was always
lingering.
I always wanted to get done, but
just like all of us in the
world, Oh, I never have enough
time, but you know, I always
preach a Taji.
It's not about not having enough
time.
It's about what is more
important in your 86,400 seconds
of the day.
You know, if something's more
important to you.
You will devote a chunk of that
time to what's important, right?
Is it an hour of watching a soap
opera or is an hour of learning
a new language?
Whatever it may be.
Right.
So over the last two years
completed my bachelor's and my
master's degree.
So I got both in a two year
span.
Kevin Chang: That's fantastic.
Bertand Newson: In addition to
managing and overseeing the
chairman, uh, hundreds of
thousands of dollars go into the
military charity, paying it
forward, paying it back,
honoring our nation's heroes and
families.
Paul Fukuma: Yeah, I'm very
proud of it.
It's a definitely a big box
checked on my to-do list, my
bucket list.
So I'm pretty proud of that.
Yeah.
Kevin Chang: Well, uh, I guess I
have to ask just because, you
know, you are a public safety
officer, do you have any take on
the recent, you know, the social
unrest, there has been calls to.
Defund police.
And you have kind of an
interesting role.
That's not really just police.
It's kind of, you know, uh,
you've had a multitude of
trainings for, you know,
handling different types of
situations and whatnot.
I, I, I'm just kind of curious
if you have takes on what's
going on.
Paul Fukuma: I've found in my
profession.
Communication is the key to
being a successful police
officer.
You've got to learn how to talk
in different languages, even
though it's all English, they're
different languages, right?
And the fastest way to piss
somebody off is to deny them a
voice fastest way to get someone
to shut down, to completely tip
over the edge is to not allow
them to speak.
And current climate there's
polarizing sides and both sides
are very passionate about their
perspective.
And they're so passionate about
sharing their perspective.
They're not stopping to listen
to the other one's perspective.
So they come to the shouting
match.
And it's just gotten to the
point where both sides are just
exploding and no one's
listening.
And unfortunately, with anything
in society, we see something we
don't like, and we go to
extremes.
We try to find the extreme
solution to something.
I got a crack in my floor.
I might as well tear the house
down and build a whole new
house.
No, no, we don't need to do
that.
Okay.
You know, there was Obama's 21st
century policing, procedural
justice.
That's a pretty big topic in law
enforcement and you know, and a
lot of people were not came out.
A lot of people were very anti
yet.
They're very resistant to it.
And teaching at the police
Academy, I have the opportunity
to talk with young recruits
coming in from all over the
country.
And this African-American man
from Southern in the South.
All right.
East, South, he came up to me
and he told me, Paul that's
policies and procedures.
That's not meant for this area,
for the Bay area.
What do you mean that's sort of
happening here?
Uh, I've grown.
I've been living here for quite
a few years.
I could tell you what that
policy stuff is written for is
not here.
Just agencies have been doing
that for a long time.
This stuff is written for
agencies out in the middle of
nowhere that don't have the same
training standards that don't
have the oversight that the Bay
area has.
I love you on the Bay area,
don't recognize or understand,
appreciate what we have here,
especially in comparisons to
other parts of the country.
You know, there's part of this
country that don't have police
academies.
It's just like, Hey, you want a
job?
Cool.
Let's go out here.
Here's all your stuff.
I'm going to take you out to the
street and show you how to do
this.
Uh, excuse me, you don't have
state oversight.
You don't state standards and
California or Cinco, California
posts.
That's California, peace
officers standards for training,
and they oversee all of law
enforcement training and entire
state of California.
So every law enforcement car has
to meet a bare minimum standard,
and it's about six months of 40
hour weeks training and just a
plethora of topics.
Right.
So it's very, very regulated.
So when I see these complaints
that we don't hold, pull the
standard Metairie right now,
there are absolutely bad apples
in the profession.
A hundred percent.
Anyone tells you that there's
not a bad police officer out
there.
I'm gonna say right now, that's
a very stubborn, ignorant, and
not, uh, open to the world
around them that this is not
true.
There's a bad person in every
single job.
There's bad.
Doctors is bad teachers, just
bad lawyers.
The sad part is they're a very
small percentage, especially of
these departments in this area
and they get all of the
spotlight and unfortunately they
highly represent the entire
profession.
My work patrol, I get called
racist all the time by every
race I've been accused of
everything.
And then it wears on you.
It really does.
Uh, it's.
It hurts.
I can tell you.
All I'm trying to do in this
world is help people.
And when I'm constantly being
bombarded as a racist or a bad
person nonstop, it, it, that
weight builds up pretty deep.
And I'm telling you right now,
tell my colleagues out there.
There it's exhausting.
Especially when we got into this
work, just trying to help and
make things better.
Right?
This current climate, I can tell
you right now it's been
eyeopening for me.
I've definitely gained some new
perspective.
I have.
Sat down and talked with many of
my friends who are either
African-American or married to
an interracial couple, or have
family in law enforcement and
tried really hard.
Just talk to me.
I'm not going to give you my
perspective.
I just want to hear yours.
Right.
I want to hear your voice.
I want to hear what your stories
are.
And I was dumbfounded.
I was taken back at how many
negative interactions or
racially motivated incidents
have happened in my friends'
lives.
I never knew.
Right.
So when I hear people say,
there's no racism in the
country, it's like, well, I
trust my close friend.
He or she is not going to lie to
me.
And if they're telling me A and
B happened to them, I'm going to
tell you that.
Yeah, it's out there.
I mean, I could go on for
probably two hours on this right
here, but I can tell you, I
don't know how we fix this.
I don't know how we can do this
on the grand scale.
I think this is going to have to
become solved on many smaller
scales and then trying to unify.
And that kind of brings me to
what I want to talk about Taji
is that this year we've really
focused on unity, both in our
graphics, both in our design and
our presentation, because I want
the world to see, not just in
theory, not just in the
hypothesis, but in proven that
we can come together of every
race, every gender, every sexual
orientation or political
affiliation, every age, every
demographic, every social
economic situation, we can come
together under a common good of
three colors.
That's red, white, and blue
combined, and we've proven it in
Taji.
You look at our membership base
and it's everything.
There are people, a part of our
things that are.
Polar opposite political
backgrounds, polar opposite, and
everything fathom of
divisiveness as country.
But yet even with those, we
could still come together under
the common good of trying to
help support our fighting women
and men in the service and
unifying or health and fitness.
It is possible.
I'm not saying it's easy, but I
can tell you right now, we have
proven that it is possible.
And that's what we're really
trying to focus on this year for
this year's event.
Bertand Newson: Paul, you know,
we really appreciate your
leadership, even with the
executive board for ta'zieh is a
very diverse group in their own.
I mean, from a race perspective,
you get a lot of different.
Feedback, male, female
civilians, people who've served.
And again, but it's the tone
that you set and you, the
emphasis on communication.
And that's the only way things
are going to get better in this
country is the ability to
communicate.
And in some cases, not to feel
that you always have to make
your agenda the priority, just
to be able to listen, to
communicate and listen.
It's that simple, but it also is
that hard, cause there's a lot
of, a lot of pain, a lot of
mistrust, some struggles of my
father and third.
And the army was also law
enforcement officers.
So, and I'm a minority male, so
I've, I seen all of it.
Um, but I still believe that our
better days are ahead of us.
I truly do.
And I feel that Tazi gives us
all one mission to focus on it.
It filters out a lot of the life
noise where we can all come
together under a common cause
when we see examples like that,
that it's good for us overall.
And I cannot wait because
registration's on the horizon.
I'm looking at veteran's day.
Hope we'll be able to share from
sneak peaks of the swag as the
podcast drops for the public
officially.
So stay tuned for that peeps,
great metal, super cool shirt,
and some other additional swag
items, giving a race, mob,
viewers and listeners.
Insight scoop.
And we just really appreciate
you, the man and all of your
service, Kevin and I are very,
very grateful for your time.
And we look forward to Taji 2021
knock on wood.
It's going to be the best period
coming off of 2020, which for so
many reasons was very tough
worldwide, domestically because
of the pandemic, but we've had
our best year and there are
always silver linings that are
happening around us when we just
take the time to listen and
listen.
So thank you for all the
goodness.
That, uh, this event and you
under your leadership, we're
putting out there.
Paul Fukuma: I appreciate.
I'm very humbled.
To have men such as yourself
take part in this.
And, and I feel blessed to have
you and part of my life as a
friend, and to include me in
your life as a friend, the
people I've met along the way.
I can tell you, Kim, I can tell
you right now that everybody
listening.
If this event failed right now,
this whole thing shut down right
now.
And we just threw everything
away and call them.
I would see it as an absolute
100% success.
Because of Bertrand and the
other people that I've met, they
have personally, they have made
my life better.
They've made me a better person,
a better man, uh, and therefore
translate to a better husband
and father.
So I truly appreciate what I've
gained from this event.
I mean, have been the main
focus, but it's definitely
brought in positivity and yeah,
I guess my parting words to the,
to the listeners out there for
all the unrest it's happening,
it's just.
If they can just take a breath
and get rid of the tunnel
vision, open your ears.
If you can just have a moment to
genuinely say yes, change my
mind.
I am willing to have my mind
changed.
Uh, not to say that you will,
but if you're willing to have
your mind changed, if you've
pretty surprised, Uh, what kind
of information and what kind of
voices you'll hear and what
perspectives you'll be able to
take in.
I can tell you in the last 14
years of this job, I am not the
same, man.
I have not the same perspectives
and that's all because I've been
able to sit down and listen to
other people and hear their
story and genuinely enter a
conversation with.
Yes, Bertrand changed my mind.
I want, I am.
I want, if you don't change my
mind, I'll actually be
disappointed.
So I want you to, so please talk
to me.
It's hard to do, but if you, if
you're listening, if you can do
that, you'd be very surprised in
a good way.
Bertand Newson: I think we'll
have you back in the future,
Paul, we won't be referring to
you as just chairman.
I think it'll be chief of.
Paul Fukuma: Not going to
happen.
No, that is huge politics game.
Nothing to do with it.
Kevin Chang: Well, Paul, I mean,
I just want to say thank you so
much, not only for your service
to the country, your service as
a public figure to our community
and for bringing Taji to so many
people and bringing them that
sense of mission and sense of
community to such a wide
audience, just can't tell you
how thankful we all are to get
to know you, to get to know your
story, to get to know more about
Taji and, um, We're so
appreciative of everything that
you've done and everything that
you continue to do.
So thank you again, and we are,
we'll definitely be there to
support you this year and going
forward.
Absolutely.
You love it.
Paul Fukuma: Thank you so much.
I'm overwhelmed by the support.
Um, actually in means a lot to
me, thank you.
Kevin Chang: Well, I hope you
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